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05-20-2010, 12:36 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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The name of the Lord is Jesus...be unashamed.
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I'm still waiting on you to show me why being baptized in the name of the Lord only without Jesus is going to send me to hell...
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05-20-2010, 12:47 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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I'm still waiting on you to show me why being baptized in the name of the Lord only without Jesus is going to send me to hell...
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I believe your post answers that...."without Jesus".
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05-20-2010, 12:51 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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I believe your post answers that...."without Jesus".
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The bible says they did it in Acts 10:48. Were those people lost?
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05-20-2010, 12:57 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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The bible says they did it in Acts 10:48. Were those people lost? |
It does not say they did it "without Jesus"...I have no doubt they knew the name of the Lord is Jesus and baptized in his name...obedient to Acts 2:38 and in Acts 19:5....being after chapter 10...no reason to have the revelation of who Jesus is and then leave his name out of baptism that I can see.
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05-20-2010, 12:58 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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It does not say they did it "without Jesus"...I have no doubt they knew the name of the Lord is Jesus and baptized in his name...obedient to Acts 2:38 and in Acts 19:5....being after chapter 10...no reason to have the revelation of who Jesus is and then leave his name out of baptism that I can see. |
So why doesn't the bible say they did it in the name of Jesus in Acts 10:48? Do you think it really means they did even though it doesn't say it?
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05-20-2010, 01:04 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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So why doesn't the bible say they did it in the name of Jesus in Acts 10:48? Do you think it really means they did even though it doesn't say it? |
yes..and i believe they submerged them in water, they probably were wearing robes, the water was cold, and many other things that they didnt actually say in that scripture. It was Jesus name before and after that scripture so I don't have any reason to doubt it. Jesus is the name of our Lord.
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05-20-2010, 01:18 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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yes..and i believe they submerged them in water, they probably were wearing robes, the water was cold, and many other things that they didnt actually say in that scripture. It was Jesus name before and after that scripture so I don't have any reason to doubt it. Jesus is the name of our Lord.
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So then you believe that verse means they were actually baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and not just in the name of the Lord, well what if i believe that it means they were baptized with the words in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost? You are making the leap that it means Jesus, so I feel just as justifed in making the leap that it means Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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05-20-2010, 01:31 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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yes..and i believe they submerged them in water, they probably were wearing robes, the water was cold, and many other things that they didnt actually say in that scripture. It was Jesus name before and after that scripture so I don't have any reason to doubt it. Jesus is the name of our Lord.
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The men were likely naked - or nearly so. The water in Caesarea would have been comfortably warm - even the drinking water would have been.
The command to be "baptized in Jesus' name" in all likelihood wasn't understood as a command for a particular incantation as the Roman Church would develop Matthew 28:19, into later. They would have instead seen themselves as being "born" (again) into a fellowship that followed the teachings of a particular Jewish rabbi of that name.
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05-20-2010, 02:53 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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I'm still waiting on you to show me why being baptized in the name of the Lord only without Jesus is going to send me to hell...
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It doesn't matter what a man says over you if you're truly calling on the name of Jesus in prayer for salvation.
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05-20-2010, 02:58 PM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?
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It doesn't matter what a man says over you if you're truly calling on the name of Jesus in prayer for salvation.
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I would not go that far. There should be no question to those who witness the initiation rite, that it is Christ Jesus who is the Saviour and who is being followed.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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