What Is A "Charismatic?"

[Jeffrey]

It is difficult to pin down, just like nailing down "Pentecostal."

But historically, "charismatic" refers to those who are not theologically Pentecostal, but those who began to welcome the charismata (gifts of Spirit) in their congregations, without making changes in anything else. In other words, these were the Baptists, Methodists, Presbytarians, Catholics, etc that began to participate in this "renewal" of the Charismatic gifts.

Pentecostalism refers more to the early 20th Century movement, and one that in general viewed the Spirit as something we encounter, believed in glossolalia (some groups believing tongues were the exclusive evidence of the Holy Spirit), identified with pre-millennial views, and on and on. Great books on this are out there, which mostly are history.

In perspective of Restorationism, if the renewal of Spirit is the significant measuring stick, all who believe in the charismata are in a broad category called "Pentecostal/Charismatic."

Many Classical Pentecostals use the word "charismatic" as a label to write other brothers off. It's a pejorative term, referring to a lower class of Christian, one who is delusional and one who doesn't have a zeal for Jesus as much anymore.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

It is difficult to pin down, just like nailing down "Pentecostal."

But historically, "charismatic" refers to those who are not theologically Pentecostal, but those who began to welcome the charismata (gifts of Spirit) in their congregations, without making changes in anything else. In other words, these were the Baptists, Methodists, Presbytarians, Catholics, etc that began to participate in this "renewal" of the Charismatic gifts.

Pentecostalism refers more to the early 20th Century movement, and one that in general viewed the Spirit as something we encounter, believed in glossolalia (some groups believing tongues were the exclusive evidence of the Holy Spirit), identified with pre-millennial views, and on and on. Great books on this are out there, which mostly are history.

In perspective of Restorationism, if the renewal of Spirit is the significant measuring stick, all who believe in the charismata are in a broad category called "Pentecostal/Charismatic."

Many Classical Pentecostals use the word "charismatic" as a label to write other brothers off. It's a pejorative term, referring to a lower class of Christian, one who is delusional and one who doesn't have a zeal for Jesus as much anymore.

Good post! Thought provoking!

BT

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

It is difficult to pin down, just like nailing down "Pentecostal."

But historically, "charismatic" refers to those who are not theologically Pentecostal, but those who began to welcome the charismata (gifts of Spirit) in their congregations, without making changes in anything else. In other words, these were the Baptists, Methodists, Presbytarians, Catholics, etc that began to participate in this "renewal" of the Charismatic gifts.

Pentecostalism refers more to the early 20th Century movement, and one that in general viewed the Spirit as something we encounter, believed in glossolalia (some groups believing tongues were the exclusive evidence of the Holy Spirit), identified with pre-millennial views, and on and on. Great books on this are out there, which mostly are history.

In perspective of Restorationism, if the renewal of Spirit is the significant measuring stick, all who believe in the charismata are in a broad category called "Pentecostal/Charismatic."

Many Classical Pentecostals use the word "charismatic" as a label to write other brothers off. It's a pejorative term, referring to a lower class of Christian, one who is delusional and one who doesn't have a zeal for Jesus as much anymore.

I would agree with this being what most "Pentecostals" think!

If you start down that slippery slope of not abiding by the clothing rules - you are "going charismatic" by your church peers.

[Sherri]

Charismatic - it's what we get called all the time by people in the organization that we left.

It's SO not who we are.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Charismatic - it's what we get called all the time by people in the organization that we left.

It's SO not who we are.

Saw some pictures on Facebook of folks doing worship service in your new church, pretty cool. Looked like you guys were having a good time