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Old 05-25-2010, 10:02 AM
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Re: Holiness Is Still Important

I am a holiness preacher. I firmly believe that "without holiness, no man shall see the Lord."

The problem has ALWAYS been, and ALWAYS will be, whose definition of holiness is THE standard?

Even I, as a pastor, do NOT think that my role is the "holiness police." Adults are smart. They really do, for the most part, know what is right and wrong. However, I don't have a problem labeling anything that is sin, that is spelled out in the bible. I firmly preach faithfulness to one's spouse; against drunkenness, pornography, lying, cheating etc. I have found that in over 25 yrs of being a Sr. Pastor, that I have NEVER been able to change anyone's life or conduct. If I can encourage someone to surrender their life to Jesus Christ, sincerely and completely, everything always turns out just fine. It is those who don't do that, we can give all our time to trying to change them......if we're foolish enough to take that "bait!"

My job is a servant. My prime weapon is a towel and not a sword. I take it very personal if someone tells me that I don't believe in or preach holiness. I most certainly DO! I just may not do it to the degree that others do and maybe more so than some as well.
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I am a holiness preacher. I firmly believe that "without holiness, no man shall see the Lord."

The problem has ALWAYS been, and ALWAYS will be, whose definition of holiness is THE standard?

Even I, as a pastor, do NOT think that my role is the "holiness police." Adults are smart. They really do, for the most part, know what is right and wrong. However, I don't have a problem labeling anything that is sin, that is spelled out in the bible. I firmly preach faithfulness to one's spouse; against drunkenness, pornography, lying, cheating etc. I have found that in over 25 yrs of being a Sr. Pastor, that I have NEVER been able to change anyone's life or conduct. If I can encourage someone to surrender their life to Jesus Christ, sincerely and completely, everything always turns out just fine. It is those who don't do that, we can give all our time to trying to change them......if we're foolish enough to take that "bait!"

My job is a servant. My prime weapon is a towel and not a sword. I take it very personal if someone tells me that I don't believe in or preach holiness. I most certainly DO! I just may not do it to the degree that others do and maybe more so than some as well.
yeah.... do a little search on this. He is correct. I am not talking about standards but the mentality behind law and faithfulness. He is a softie... hard to lose your salvation and all.
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yeah.... do a little search on this. He is correct. I am not talking about standards but the mentality behind law and faithfulness. He is a softie... hard to lose your salvation and all.
Who's a softie? Not sure what you're referencing.

Just how "easy" is it to lose one's salvation? What does it take? A bad thought unconfessed? I'm really curious about that.
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Who's a softie? Not sure what you're referencing.

Just how "easy" is it to lose one's salvation? What does it take? A bad thought unconfessed? I'm really curious about that.
HAHAHAHA I knew I would get you going. Hope things are going good!
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HAHAHAHA I knew I would get you going. Hope things are going good!
Nice dodge, TL.

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yeah.... do a little search on this. He is correct. I am not talking about standards but the mentality behind law and faithfulness. He is a softie... hard to lose your salvation and all.
That's right! A good holiness preacher preaches it HARD! Don't let 'em off easy - put 'em in Hell!
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