Wow.....I Found this Shocking and Sad

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Well now it's ok for a black person to have an attitude/misbehave because you know we got to even the score. What a crock.

Treat all equal.


I never knew how white I was tell I moved to the south. I've learned bigots come in all colors.

In some places in America, being black is still a liability in part because of the actions of other black people. Racial prejudice is wrong and destructive, but sometimes I understand how people can become racially prejudiced.

This goes for blacks, whites, asians-- everyone.

I believe there are instances, even today, where blacks may face prejudice and/or discrimination.

However, there are a lot of people that make things bad for themselves and others around them.

They come in all colors.

Renda cited an experience that involved black people.

Excuses are not acceptable.

The behavior described is completely indefensible.



NOW, you can't keep making excuses for people. You're so much of a bleeder, you could die from blood loss one day!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

In some places in America, being black is still a liability in part because of the actions of other black people. Racial prejudice is wrong and destructive, but sometimes I understand how people can become racially prejudiced.

This goes for blacks, whites, asians-- everyone.

I believe there are instances, even today, where blacks may face prejudice and/or discrimination.

However, there are a lot of people that make things bad for themselves and others around them.

They come in all colors.

Renda cited an experience that involved black people.

Excuses are not acceptable.

The behavior described is completely indefensible.



NOW, you can't keep making excuses for people. You're so much of a bleeder, you could die from blood loss one day!

That's exactly how I see it. I would never expect other "white" people to stand behind me if I was in the wrong just because we are all white.

Just to think that she EXPECTED them to accept her behavior and not tell me just because they were homies was completely out of line.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

That's exactly how I see it. I would never expect other "white" people to stand behind me if I was in the wrong just because we are all white.

Just to think that she EXPECTED them to accept her behavior and not tell me just because they were homies was completely out of line.

Washington, DC used to be rife with that, "us vs them" mentality. However, before I left, I did not see that mentality played out as much as I used to see it.

Honestly, sometimes that mentality is vital for survival and success.

It's played out among other groups as that, "good 'ol boy network."


Ultimately, that mentality will only get most people only so far before they make a fool of themselves and the people who promoted them if the promoted one is not prepared.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Washington, DC used to be rife with that, "us vs them" mentality. However, before I left, I did not see that mentality played out as much as I used to see it.

Honestly, sometimes that mentality is vital for survival and success.

It's played out among other groups as that. "good 'ol boy network."


Ultimately, that mentality will only get most people only so far before they make a fool of themselves and the people who promoted them if the promoted one is not prepared.

You are exactly right!! The good 'ole boy network is just as upsetting.

And, I totally agree with your last statement too.

I've adopted a new scripture this week - -Proverbs 19:11

"Good sense makes a man/woman restrain his anger, and it is his/her glory to overlook a transgression or an offense."

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

That's exactly how I see it. I would never expect other "white" people to stand behind me if I was in the wrong just because we are all white.

Just to think that she EXPECTED them to accept her behavior and not tell me just because they were homies was completely out of line.

Like I said, I believe this lady is terribly wrong because she's a terrible employee, not because of a racial problem. If these three had been cousins, she would have appealed to them as relatives to back her up. We all seek out people with commonality to stand by us in crisis. THAT is more the problem than a racial problem.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

In some places in America, being black is still a liability in part because of the actions of other black people.

I believe there are instances, even today, where blacks may face prejudice and/or discrimination.

However, there are a lot of people that make things bad for themselves and others around them.

They come in all colors.

Renda cited an experience that involved black people.

Excuses are not acceptable.

The behavior described is completely indefensible.



NOW, you can't keep making excuses for people. You're so much of a bleeder, you could die from blood loss one day!

Even those who make it worse for themselves, we can look at it more through a sociological lens. Blacks have no inheritance of land here. They have no tradition of education. Some still have a slave mentality that is hard to undo, especially when they live in ghettos, surrounded by ruined neighborhoods, second-class schools and feelings of hopelessness. I don't ignore that this rides on their own action to change that: be responsible and minimize single-parent homes, get a glimpse of the possibilities outside the little world that many in poverty live in, etc... but neither do I pretend that is an easy challenge to overcome.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Even those who make it worse for themselves, we can look at it more through a sociological lens. Blacks have no inheritance of land here. They have no tradition of education. Some still have a slave mentality that is hard to undo, especially when they live in ghettos, surrounded by ruined neighborhoods, second-class schools and feelings of hopelessness. I don't ignore that this rides on their own action to change that: be responsible and minimize single-parent homes, get a glimpse of the possibilities outside the little world that many in poverty live in, etc... but neither do I pretend that is an easy challenge to overcome.

NOW, you're talking!!!!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by notofworks

NOW, you're talking!!!!

Are you this vocal regarding the Native Americans?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Are you this vocal regarding the Native Americans?

Well first, I am Native American (not full-blooded). Second, yes. I am as vocal for any who are disenfranchised, and what has been done to those who were here first is completely criminal. That being said, it's an entirely different situation.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Well first, I am Native American (not full-blooded). Second, yes. I am as vocal for any who are disenfranchised, and what has been done to those who were here first is completely criminal. That being said, it's an entirely different situation.

I think that is debatable, but I'm going going to debate because I'm heading out and enjoying my three day weekend!

Love ya all!!