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View Poll Results: How many times did you ask for the Holy Ghost
1 11 30.56%
2 1 2.78%
3 2 5.56%
4 0 0%
5-10 1 2.78%
10-20 0 0%
More than 20 21 58.33%
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:28 PM
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No, on the contrary, you are right about tongues and 1 Cor 14. Occam's razor DOES propose that.
Please elaborate, because if you are saying what I think you are saying then I am amazed!
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Please elaborate, because if you are saying what I think you are saying then I am amazed!
I am saying that Occam's Razor does make the tongues of 1 Cor 14 to be the same tongues of Acts 2. Be amazed! You made a very good point with that.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:35 PM
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I am saying that Occam's Razor does make the tongues of 1 Cor 14 to be the same tongues of Acts 2. Be amazed! You made a very good point with that.
What about those of 1 Corinthians 12?
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What about those of 1 Corinthians 12?
Yes, included. ALL tongues, according to Occam's razor, unless I am missing something.
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I'm more of a Black Swan theory kind of guy... in that just because we haven't seen a black swan, doesn't mean that black swans do not exist...
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I'm more of a Black Swan theory kind of guy... in that just because we haven't seen a black swan, doesn't mean that black swans do not exist...



Absence of evidence isn't necessarily evidence of absence. The problem occurs when evidence is presented, or, at least, more evidence than the other party is presenting...

My thing is, I don't presume to be the expert here. My questions are pretty basic, and my main argument is very simple. Signs and wonders still happen, but they are not requirements for making it past the Pearly Gates. I think there's plenty of scripture to support that, and very little to prop up IE, unless that is, black swans do exist, but God enjoys not telling us about it.

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When I first became saved I knew I had received the Holy Spirit.Took years to know the difference between the sealing of the Holy Spirit and to be Baptised in the Holy Spirit.
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Yes, included. ALL tongues, according to Occam's razor, unless I am missing something.
Awesome. So you don't believe that all Christians speak with tongues as 1 Corinthans 12:30 states? (Which implies that tongues are not the only initial evidence of the Holy Ghost?)
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Awesome. So you don't believe that all Christians speak with tongues as 1 Corinthans 12:30 states? (Which implies that tongues are not the only initial evidence of the Holy Ghost?)
No, not necessarily. I am saying Occam's Razor concludes that.
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No, not necessarily. I am saying Occam's Razor concludes that.
Okay I don't think I have a problem with Occam's Razor anymore... jkjkjk.

I still don't believe that it is a good proof for whether something is right or wrong. I still think like I always have that it is useful, I just don't think it should be used as proof or a trump argument. Its more of a study guide that doesn't always have to be followed.
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