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07-07-2010, 11:13 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Does anyone else not see an interesting correlation here?
Religiously: clean up the outside, make yourself presentable to others- do not talk about what might be going on in your heart or your personal life because then you are "unspiritual"- At least that's what my former experience was. Is it so far a leap to think that someone who is taught to dress and act the part, would see a huge problem with claiming a degree to look better?
Maybe I am reaching here, I probably am, but there it seems that once you become good at pretending to be religious on the outside, the "props" just seems to come easier as well...
Just a thought.
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Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.
I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.
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07-07-2010, 11:15 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.
I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.
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But it's an interesting trend in the conservative Holiness movement, as we've seen over the past week. Put the names down, examine the credentials. Yes, indeed, we could call it a "trend."
BTW, word has it that UGST is now fully accredited.
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07-07-2010, 11:18 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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But it's an interesting trend in the conservative Holiness movement, as we've seen over the past week. Put the names down, examine the credentials. Yes, indeed, we could call it a "trend."
BTW, word has it that UGST is now fully accredited.
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It may be a trend - I am sure it's true for some. I am excited to know we are abandoning what appeared to be anti-intellectualism of the past, but certainly don't want that answered with fake degrees!
Great to hear that about UGST!
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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07-07-2010, 11:21 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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It may be a trend - I am sure it's true for some. I am excited to know we are abandoning what appeared to be anti-intellectualism of the past, but certainly don't want that answered with fake degrees!
Great to hear that about UGST!
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Yeah, makes me wondering if we have fully abandoned the "anti-intellectualism" at all if it's not true academic learning being exemplified.
Pentecostals in general have certainly made much progress in this area, particularly the AOG. I have much respect for UGST as well.
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07-07-2010, 11:20 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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But it's an interesting trend in the conservative Holiness movement, as we've seen over the past week. Put the names down, examine the credentials. Yes, indeed, we could call it a "trend."
BTW, word has it that UGST is now fully accredited.
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Jeffrey, I really like you. I've read all the wonderful things you've written, and man, you are a stud  *wink*
UGST. Haven't Apostolic schools for a long time now been claiming to be the "only Apostolic school" with accredition?
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07-07-2010, 11:59 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
But it's an interesting trend in the conservative Holiness movement, as we've seen over the past week. Put the names down, examine the credentials. Yes, indeed, we could call it a "trend."
BTW, word has it that UGST is now fully accredited.
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That would be great! They need to update their website.
http://www.ugst.org/page.cfm?p=136#o...0accreditation
Q: What opportunities are available for UGST graduates before the school is accredited?
A: At this time three accredited seminaries have given us letters of equivalency, which state that they will accept our credits. This in itself could be seen as a form of de facto accreditation. UGST has been accepted as a Candidate member of the Association of Theological Schools (ATS) . This is known as pre-accreditation. UGST anticipates that it will be able to reach full accreditation by 2010. UGST students currently qualify for federal loans and the school will qualify for foundation funding.
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07-07-2010, 12:00 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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That would be great! They need to update their website.
http://www.ugst.org/page.cfm?p=136#o...0accreditation
Q: What opportunities are available for UGST graduates before the school is accredited?
A: At this time three accredited seminaries have given us letters of equivalency, which state that they will accept our credits. This in itself could be seen as a form of de facto accreditation. UGST has been accepted as a Candidate member of the Association of Theological Schools (ATS) . This is known as pre-accreditation. UGST anticipates that it will be able to reach full accreditation by 2010. UGST students currently qualify for federal loans and the school will qualify for foundation funding.
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That news was breaking as of yesterday, so give the site a week or two. I'm sure they will pump this big for the Fall registration.
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07-07-2010, 12:03 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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That news was breaking as of yesterday, so give the site a week or two. I'm sure they will pump this big for the Fall registration.
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(sigh!) It would only take a few minutes to update the site.
Nothing is real until the relevant sites have been updated. There's a crescent moon outside right now - but I can't see it in the sky. I have to consult my astronomy widget to verify. Even the heavens are subject to site updates.
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07-07-2010, 12:04 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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(sigh!) It would only take a few minutes to update the site.
Nothing is real until the relevant sites have been updated. There's a crescent moon outside right now - but I can't see it in the sky. I have to consult my astronomy widget to verify. Even the heavens are subject to site updates.
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A very worthy source leaked that information to me. A faculty member at UGST.
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07-07-2010, 11:16 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.
I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.
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True, and that skepticism can bleed over into a disrespect for the educational process as a whole. And perhaps some narcissistic competition at play. ("I'm just as smart as he is, and I don't have a degree...oh, wait...I have one NOW.")
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