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Old 07-09-2010, 09:29 AM
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Then there's the harlot Rahab who outwardly looked like a devil, but in her heart was a desire to serve the God of Israel. She hid in her tent the two spies of Israel in an act of standing for the things of God in defiance of her own nation's authority. She was spared as Jericho fell into a heap of rubble.

Meanwhile, as though perfectly opposite in contrast to Rahab, Achan looked the part, was called the part and had reputation to boot, but he hid something in his tent as Rahab did. He hid a wedge of gold and Babylonish garment and silver. He defied the authority of God in his nation. He was buried beneath a heap of rubble as Jericho was.

It was like Rahab and Achan, though so different on the outward, exchanged places and truly belonged to the other's nation.

Perfect cases of the outward not matching the inward, with the more "holy" outward person being the fake. Lessons that show the outward is not a gauge to go by, by any means.
Have you ever heard of the "Fallacy of Equivocation/Non-Sequiter"? You should study into these logical fallacies...you're grossly guilty of them above.

2 Cor. 7 tells us that we should have both inward & outward holiness...not one or the other! Try again Mike.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:22 AM
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2 Cor. 7 tells us that we should have both inward & outward holiness...not one or the other! Try again Mike.
Outward holiness yes but not based on mans mistranslations of history and therefore scripture and mans traditions.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:37 AM
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Outward holiness yes but not based on mans mistranslations of history and therefore scripture and mans traditions.
"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."

Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:58 AM
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."

Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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1 Peter 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing?
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Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing?
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:40 PM
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Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing?
Oh brother...here we go again! How many times have I explained the Greek in this passage??????? Simply will not waste my time repeating the same thing over & over, only for you fella's to plod along like you don't see it.

Ever heard of the "Neglected Aspect Fallacy"?? Obviously not......RDP.
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:38 PM
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Oh brother...here we go again! How many times have I explained the Greek in this passage??????? Simply will not waste my time repeating the same thing over & over, only for you fella's to plod along like you don't see it.

Ever heard of the "Neglected Aspect Fallacy"?? Obviously not......RDP.
What's your experience with the Koine Greek? PhD from Southern Easter University? Along with LS?

You'll have a hair more luck with your egalitarian viewpoints than you will with your anti-jewlery prohibitions. Good luck finding scholarship that agrees with your expert Greek explanations. Spare us.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:49 PM
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What's your experience with the Koine Greek? PhD from Southern Easter University? Along with LS?

You'll have a hair more luck with your egalitarian viewpoints than you will with your anti-jewlery prohibitions. Good luck finding scholarship that agrees with your expert Greek explanations. Spare us.
Man you guys never cease to amaze me. This is exactly why I rarely even post on here anymore.

Ughhh, you'll find many scholarly quotes that agree w/ both of my positions, since I'm very careful to allow the text to define itself & do my research. Oughta' give it a try sometime Jeffrey! The Word is what will judge you in eternity after all.
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:36 PM
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."

Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
If you'd get your head out of.... well, get your head out of yourself for a moment, read the full-length passage, understand the message that was being communicated and cease your arbitrary hyperliteralism for a moment, you'd understand that the "not" is a "this, not that" statement, which is a "for example."
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:46 PM
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If you'd get your head out of.... well, get your head out of yourself for a moment, read the full-length passage, understand the message that was being communicated and cease your arbitrary hyperliteralism for a moment, you'd understand that the "not" is a "this, not that" statement, which is a "for example."
Say what?? And I'M the one w/ my head where it doesn't belong?? Reeeeeeeeeeeal "Christian" language, by the way! I know, I know, refuse to look at yourself & attack me right?

Typical spirit of the liberal.........
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