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Old 07-10-2010, 01:39 AM
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Re: Police man convicted of Involuntary Manslaught

It's possible it was a mistake especially with so many witnesses but even so it's mistake that is unexcusable. I'm a nurse and I'm paid for a certain skill level to not make mistakes that are nursing 101. Even if he meant to grap his taser it's an unexcusable mistake.
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Old 07-10-2010, 01:56 AM
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It's possible it was a mistake especially with so many witnesses but even so it's mistake that is unexcusable. I'm a nurse and I'm paid for a certain skill level to not make mistakes that are nursing 101. Even if he meant to grap his taser it's an unexcusable mistake.
That's why he got involuntary manslaughter.
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Old 07-10-2010, 05:44 PM
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That's why he got involuntary manslaughter.
surely nobody thinks that he planned/pre-meditated with malice aforethought to kill some one that day.

how else could a jury find?
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surely nobody thinks that he planned/pre-meditated with malice aforethought to kill some one that day.

how else could a jury find?
I don't think it was premeditated or planned.

Wouldn't this fit better under 2nd Degree Murder than involuntary manslaughter?


When you draw a fire arm and you are in law enforcement, you DO NOT shoot warning shots.

You shoot to maim and/or kill.


Drunk driving is involuntary manslaughter because you are doing something with self interest at heart-- not to go and kill someone because you are driving sdrunk.


In this case, it is very difficult to suggest that he shot this unarmed, handcuffed man who was facing down on the ground already out of self interest.

To tase the man at this point would not have made any sense either-- which has already been brought up.
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surely nobody thinks that he planned/pre-meditated with malice aforethought to kill some one that day.

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I don't think a single soul thinks it was pre-meditated.

I think there are some that believe the cop snapped amid the anxiety of the moment -- trying to subdue the detained Grant, and keeping an eye on a noisy New Year's crowd around him that was yelling and screaming.
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Did you guys see his reaction on the tape? It looks like he was shocked after shooting the guy
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It's possible it was a mistake especially with so many witnesses but even so it's mistake that is unexcusable. I'm a nurse and I'm paid for a certain skill level to not make mistakes that are nursing 101. Even if he meant to grap his taser it's an unexcusable mistake.
It appears to have been a horrible but obviously avoidable mistake. The cop will pay for this for the rest of his life. Oakland taxpayers have already paid a very large sum - but not tremendously large. It seems that the lawyers for the victim's kin didn't want another jury to see this tape so they settled early and out of court.

One really should consider the action of the family's lawyers here.
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