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07-12-2010, 08:22 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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2 Cor. 7 tells us that we should have both inward & outward holiness...not one or the other! Try again Mike.
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Outward holiness yes but not based on mans mistranslations of history and therefore scripture and mans traditions.
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07-12-2010, 08:37 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Outward holiness yes but not based on mans mistranslations of history and therefore scripture and mans traditions.
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."
Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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07-12-2010, 09:58 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."
Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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In context...
1 Peter 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing?
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07-12-2010, 10:02 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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1 Peter 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing? 
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07-12-2010, 12:40 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Aquila
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1 Peter 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing? 
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Oh brother...here we go again! How many times have I explained the Greek in this passage??????? Simply will not waste my time repeating the same thing over & over, only for you fella's to plod along like you don't see it.
Ever heard of the "Neglected Aspect Fallacy"?? Obviously not......RDP.
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07-12-2010, 01:38 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Oh brother...here we go again! How many times have I explained the Greek in this passage??????? Simply will not waste my time repeating the same thing over & over, only for you fella's to plod along like you don't see it.
Ever heard of the "Neglected Aspect Fallacy"?? Obviously not......RDP.
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What's your experience with the Koine Greek? PhD from Southern Easter University? Along with LS?
You'll have a hair more luck with your egalitarian viewpoints than you will with your anti-jewlery prohibitions. Good luck finding scholarship that agrees with your expert Greek explanations. Spare us.
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07-12-2010, 03:49 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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What's your experience with the Koine Greek? PhD from Southern Easter University? Along with LS?
You'll have a hair more luck with your egalitarian viewpoints than you will with your anti-jewlery prohibitions. Good luck finding scholarship that agrees with your expert Greek explanations. Spare us.
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Man you guys never cease to amaze me. This is exactly why I rarely even post on here anymore.
Ughhh, you'll find many scholarly quotes that agree w/ both of my positions, since I'm very careful to allow the text to define itself & do my research. Oughta' give it a try sometime Jeffrey! The Word is what will judge you in eternity after all.
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07-12-2010, 04:11 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Man you guys never cease to amaze me. This is exactly why I rarely even post on here anymore.
Ughhh, you'll find many scholarly quotes that agree w/ both of my positions, since I'm very careful to allow the text to define itself & do my research. Oughta' give it a try sometime Jeffrey! The Word is what will judge you in eternity after all.
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Prove it. State them. Show them.
I've spent considerable time in New Testament theology and haven't found a single scholar yet to view the two NT texts (which you've hijacked) as carte blanche prohibitions on jewelry. So please direct me to the right way.
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07-12-2010, 01:36 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."
Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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If you'd get your head out of.... well, get your head out of yourself for a moment, read the full-length passage, understand the message that was being communicated and cease your arbitrary hyperliteralism for a moment, you'd understand that the "not" is a "this, not that" statement, which is a "for example."
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07-12-2010, 03:46 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
If you'd get your head out of.... well, get your head out of yourself for a moment, read the full-length passage, understand the message that was being communicated and cease your arbitrary hyperliteralism for a moment, you'd understand that the "not" is a "this, not that" statement, which is a "for example."
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Say what?? And I'M the one w/ my head where it doesn't belong?? Reeeeeeeeeeeal "Christian" language, by the way! I know, I know, refuse to look at yourself & attack me right?
Typical spirit of the liberal.........
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