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Old 07-13-2010, 09:44 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey View Post
RDP considers himself an exegete, a scholar even, yet uses scriptures like Jer 4:30 (of course, not a pericope, but a specific verse. ahem) to prove that God prohibits jewlery!

What are you doing,
you who have been plundered?
Why do you dress up in beautiful clothing
and put on gold jewelry?
Why do you brighten your eyes with mascara?
Your primping will do you no good!
The allies who were your lovers
despise you and seek to kill you.

He is clearly describing what the audience at that time would recognize as harlotry. Not one thing in particular, but an entire portrait! Furthermore, his focus in this pericope is not hookers at all! Israel, the figurative woman here, is batting her eyes at lovers who despise her and hate her. God is jealous. He is hurting. We may as well add in the verse "batting the eyes, wearing perfume, making kissy-lips, twirling your hair." But only a legalistic maniac would proof-text a verse like this to use it as a "see, there it is, God prohibits jewelry" verse. Just amazes me.
I see, you attack me off of your muddied perceptions [strawman fallacy], & expect me to defend it?? I've NEVER referred to myself as a "scholar, or exegete." YOU supplied that, not me Jeffrey. Thus, you assume what you cannot prove!

Regarding Jer. 4, what has happenned to your theory about figurative verses & sinful symbols over in Ezek. 16? Hmmm, you don't apply the same criteria here do you? And part of what the audience would recognize as harlotry was make-up & jewelry! Tks. for the help!

No, I do not think that every woman who wears make-up & jewelry is a harlot. My point was that figurative verses can cut either way [for about the 3rd time now]. But we do see God repeatedly condemning the wearing of jewelry by His people. Are you guys denying that:________?

Remember, the OT was physical in nature, while the NT is spiritual in nature. Thus, the idolatry in the OT, which was repeatedly connected to jewelry, is now done in the heart/spiritually, which is apparently still connected to jewelry from the way you guys fight it so hard!

Still waiting on you to deal w/ I Tim. 2:9, "N-O-T with gold...".
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