UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

So swimsuits are now "fornication"? Thats just weird, I don't care who you are.

If uncut hair can give you power and authority to summon angels
and modest clothing gives you power before the throne ....

then most definitely swimsuits are fornication ...
and divorces justifiable for mixed bathing.

welcome to the 21st century world of radical, jihadist Apostolica.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by DAII

If uncut hair can give you power and authority to summon angels
and modest clothing gives you power before the throne ....

then most definitely swimsuits are fornication ...
and divorces justifiable for mixed bathing.

welcome to the 21st century world of radical, jihadist Apostolica.

Negative Dan Drudge. Only a small minority accept this junk.

IMO the greatest nod this stuff gets is silence by the majority. No one wants to be the one to speak up and make the waves...

[Pressing-On]

If I, as a Conservative woman, was at the pool side with a man who was NOT my husband and dressed in a bikini, I would wager to say, I had already been doing something to get me there. Just sayin'.....

So, we are finding this to be acceptable dress in mixed company? Am I understanding that to be true? If so, I remember when we used to walk away from things, now it appears we are walking back to a place we, once, wanted to leave behind. The spiraling down of modesty. Who would have thunk? I should have stayed a Catholic. I could wear a bikini, get drunk and still be saved. I must be getting the raw end of the deal - ya think? LOL!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

If I, as a Conservative woman, was at the pool side with a man who was NOT my husband and dressed in a bikini, I would wager to say, I had already been doing something to get me there. Just sayin'.....

So, we are finding this to be acceptable dress in mixed company? Am I understanding that to be true? If so, I remember when we used to walk away from things, now it appears we are walking back to a place we, once, wanted to leave behind. The spiraling down of modesty. Who would have thunk? I should have stayed a Catholic. I could wear a bikini, get drunk and still be saved. I must be getting the raw end of the deal - ya think? LOL!

No one wears bikinis in our family... and yet I can think of many times I/we were in the same vicinity as those who were. Beach, street, in the homes of my customers... Never crossed my mind that they were fornicators.

And remember, the issue is not so much about what we should be wearing, but a pastor saying it is fornication, and constitutes reason for divorce. That's scary and far more questionable than the swimsuit it'self.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

No one wears bikinis in our family... and yet I can think of many times I/we were in the same vicinity as those who were. Beach, street, in the homes of my customers... Never crossed my mind that they were fornicators. And can I remind you - the issue is not so much about what we should be wearing, but a pastor saying it is fornication, and constitutes reason for divorce.

I agree with you Stephen. It is not fornication to wear a bikini. Secular people at the beach think that it's normal.

The issue is, why is this women dressed in this fashion when her husband is not present? The article said that James FOUND his wife, wearing a bikini with the husband of a mutual friend. That means he was SHOCKED to find her in this fashion.

I'm with Bratti - not giving her a pass no matter what the pastor did. And, yes, he should be careful how he addressed the issue. We don't know if this caused a big stink in the church and he decided to address the church body. He can do that if he wants to. My point is that she was doing something wrong in her life to end up in a bikini at a pool side with another man. To say adultery or fornication was NOT going on is also speculation.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

To say adultery or fornication was NOT going on is also speculation.

My head hurts. I wish I could pop you like a pimple.

Congrats Mawmaw.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by DAII

My head hurts. I wish I could pop you like a pimple.

Congrats Mawmaw.

Give it your best shot, Bubba. I'd hit you with a baseball bat!

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by DAII

My head hurts. I wish I could pop you like a pimple.

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~Gross!!!!!!

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

To say adultery or fornication was NOT going on is also speculation.

??? Seriously?

She stated that she never committed adultery while married to the man. I'm not sure why we should doubt her word. Especially since she was willing to go to court to clear her name.

'Found' is just a word that the news story used. Doesn't automatically mean he was shocked. He was more than likely upset about her wearing a bikini, but if he had thought she was having an affair, he would probably have said so since they were obviously looking for a reason to okay his marriage to the pastor's daughter.

Whether or not the woman should have been wearing a bikini is really completely irrelevant to this story. She was accused from the pulpit of committing fornication, which she denies. That's the story.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

??? Seriously?

She stated that she never committed adultery while married to the man. I'm not sure why we should doubt her word. Especially since she was willing to go to court to clear her name.

'Found' is just a word that the news story used. Doesn't automatically mean he was shocked. He was more than likely upset about her wearing a bikini, but if he had thought she was having an affair, he would probably have said so since they were obviously looking for a reason to okay his marriage to the pastor's daughter.

Whether or not the woman should have been wearing a bikini is really completely irrelevant to this story. She was accused from the pulpit of committing fornication, which she denies. That's the story.

Again the bikini story not fact ... as far as we can see.