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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Mizpeh,
I'm thinking the pastor believes she had motivation by her apparel? Hence, he calls it fornication.
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Unlike women that commit fornication and adultery with co-workers, having never worn a bikini in front of them?
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Mizpeh,
I'm thinking the pastor believes she had motivation by her apparel? Hence, he calls it fornication.
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That wasn't his defense.
His defense was:
One of the reasons the pastor gave James Driver as grounds to biblically remarry was that James Driver once found his then-wife Angela Driver wearing a bikini at a swimming pool while with the husband of a mutual friend. The pastor felt that constituted exhibitionism and met the biblical definition of fornication, according to the defense summary.
Read more: http://www.macon.com/2010/07/07/1187...#ixzz0td6QcJR6
He said that exhibitionism (his term for wearing a bikini in front of another man) was fornication.
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07-13-2010, 10:07 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Friend's husband.
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Not that husband, the other husband.
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I'm confused. Was the man, at the pool, a friend of her husbands?
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07-13-2010, 10:08 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
What is the biblical definition of fornication?
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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That wasn't his defense.
His defense was:
One of the reasons the pastor gave James Driver as grounds to biblically remarry was that James Driver once found his then-wife Angela Driver wearing a bikini at a swimming pool while with the husband of a mutual friend. The pastor felt that constituted exhibitionism and met the biblical definition of fornication, according to the defense summary.
Read more: http://www.macon.com/2010/07/07/1187...#ixzz0td6QcJR6 |
A new doctrine that needs to be FLESHED OUT.
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07-13-2010, 10:08 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I'm confused. Was the man, at the pool, a friend of her husbands?
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LOL.
The husband of a friend. 
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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What is the biblical definition of fornication?
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See Jesus.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Did someone say who the man was that she was wearing a bikini in front of?
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No (We do know that it was the husband of a mutual friend). Why would it matter who the man was?
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Because without naming the man, it almost reminds me of the woman caught in adultery-"in the very act", in the Bible. The woman was brought before Jesus and accused. They caught her in bed in adultery. What, did they lose the man in the sheets? Forget him in their zeal to stone her?
For the record, no I don't think that this woman was in adultery or fornication for wearing a bikini. We don't know who the man was or his motive for being there. He could have been a relative, or he could have walked up while she and her friend were at a private backyard pool for a girls' day. That happened to me once, but believe me, it wasn't fornication. He didn't go to a UPC. He walked up and started chatting, not realizing that he wasn't supposed to be there. What was more immodest? Staying in the water or standing up and getting out, giving him a full view?
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I'm confused. Was the man, at the pool, a friend of her husbands?
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They both had a mutual friend (I'm assuming the mutual friend was a woman). The man at the pool was the husband of the mutual friend.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Oh sweet niblets, people!
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omg!!!! You watch THAT show? 
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Are you honestly saying you see nothing wrong with this chick strutting her stuff with a guy she's not married to? Nothing at all? Really? Honestly? truly? Verily?
You don't even think it was sinful, unwise, deceitful, and lascivious?
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I definitely think it was terrible judgment, and she may have had bad motives. However, there's no proof that anything occurred beyond immodesty. That alone doesn't constitute fornication or adultery, ergo just biblical cause for divorce/remarriage.
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