Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I've addressed your claims above. If you'd like, I can copy/paste some Fee or Moo on Paul's use of "not this, but that" language.

Spare me Fee & the rest of them if you're not gonna' believe ALL of their doctrines....do you Jeffrey:________? I doubt it.

Now, the "not this" was external ornamentation, the "but that" was internal ornamentaion. Very good Jeffrey, now apply it to your life!

Maybe that would help.... then again, not sure what would help. We are just talking at each other anyway.

Yes, because I'll not let you guys erase the Bible! It's still there in black & white....& will be on the day of judgement also.

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[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by rdp

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
I've addressed your claims above. If you'd like, I can copy/paste some Fee or Moo on Paul's use of "not this, but that" language.

Spare me Fee & the rest of them if you're not gonna' believe ALL of their doctrines....do you Jeffrey:________? I doubt it.

Now, the "not this" was external ornamentation, the "but that" was internal ornamentaion. Very good Jeffrey, now apply it to your life!

Maybe that would help.... then again, not sure what would help. We are just talking at each other anyway.

Yes, because I'll not let you guys erase the Bible! It's still there in black & white....& will be on the day of judgement also.

No one is ERASING anything lol I thought you understood this whole goal of interpreting concept.

Let's turn now to historical evidence, busts, statues, etc... We have no historical evidence that shows people of the Way did not wear jewelry. There's a great documentary out on Hassidic Judaism. If you wanted to live as strict as they do, not freed from the Law, and as pious as ever... yet you find their women with cut hair, jewelry and make-up.

So now I have to believe all of a scholar's conclusions to take as valuable any of them? That old argument? You're really going there? Throw away your Bible. Throw away 90% of your book collection, your Bible atlas, your commentaries, your devotionals, your concordances, all of it. Be consistent
Read only what you write. Enjoy your intellectual incest. I prefer to enjoy coming to the table with other brothers, in a Talmudic/Midrashic way, sharing different perspectives and learning from each other. But that's just me

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

No one is ERASING anything lol I thought you understood this whole goal of interpreting concept.

Let's turn now to historical evidence, busts, statues, etc... We have no historical evidence that shows people of the Way did not wear jewelry. There's a great documentary out on Hassidic Judaism. If you wanted to live as strict as they do, not freed from the Law, and as pious as ever... yet you find their women with cut hair, jewelry and make-up.

Now we've resorted to "Appealls Outside of the Text????" Man, has it gotten' that bad Jeffrey? "Let God be true and every man a liar."

So now I have to believe all of a scholar's conclusions to take as valuable any of them? That old argument? You're really going there? Throw away your Bible. Throw away 90% of your book collection, your Bible atlas, your commentaries, your devotionals, your concordances, all of it. Be consistent

What you don't understamd is that Paul distinquished between "learning" & "truth." "....ever LEARNING, but never able to come the knowledge of the TRUTH." I know the difference...you apparently do not, since you can't even grasp the meaning of "N-O-T with gold....".


Read only what you write. Enjoy your intellectual incest. I prefer to enjoy coming to the table with other brothers, in a Talmudic/Midrashic way, sharing different perspectives and learning from each other. But that's just me

I also enjoy apologetics, but when someone attempts to render what the Scriptures clearly say as ineffective.....I don't believe them!