Is Jesus Sitting on a Throne in His Flesh?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by SteppingStone

It's all past tense.. Took me years to figure it out...

...shall is now past tense?
...the dead in Christ have already risen?

You are going to have to do a much better job of explaining these things than simply stating, its all past tense. It's not past tense and shall proves it. It's not past tense and the fact that the dead in Christ have not yet risen also proves it.

[mental]

Originally Posted by jfrog

...shall is now past tense?
...the dead in Christ have already risen?

You are going to have to do a much better job of explaining these things than simply stating, its all past tense. It's not past tense and shall proves it. It's not past tense and the fact that the dead in Christ have not yet risen also proves it.

I’m not saying one way or the other if these verses are past tense but …

Exegetically tenses are always in relation to the author. This is an obvious exegetical rule that is often ignored. Since these verses were written 2000 years ago, they could be past tense to us.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mental

I’m not saying one way or the other if these verses are past tense but …

Exegetically tenses are always in relation to the author. This is an obvious exegetical rule that is often ignored. Since these verses were written 2000 years ago, they could be past tense to us.

I totally agree. That is why I didn't only mention the use of shall. That is why I also mentioned the dead in Christ rising. Has this already occurred?

[mental]

Originally Posted by jfrog

That is why I also mentioned the dead in Christ rising.

True. You did.

[SteppingStone]

Originally Posted by jfrog

...shall is now past tense?
...the dead in Christ have already risen?

You are going to have to do a much better job of explaining these things than simply stating, its all past tense. It's not past tense and shall proves it. It's not past tense and the fact that the dead in Christ have not yet risen also proves it.

There are countless threads in the eschatology section explaining this, pick one.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by SteppingStone

There are countless threads in the eschatology section explaining this, pick one.

I don't recall anyone taking the stand that the dead in Christ have already been raised.

[SteppingStone]

Originally Posted by jfrog

I don't recall anyone taking the stand that the dead in Christ have already been raised.

Well maybe you can make a thread showing us that they haven't..

[seekerman]

Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

[mental]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Paul isn't talking about this since it happened prior to his writing

[seekerman]

Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Wonder what kind of resurrected body they had?