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07-22-2010, 11:45 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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HAHAHAHAHAHA You say this in the same breath as you attempt to cite Clement, Calvin and Tertullian as scholars for your position.
So when I quote Oneness sources, it's not acceptable, then when I cite other sources....neither is that acceptable??? Perhaps I'll appeal to the men on Mars next!?!? To make matters worse, YOU'RE the one who went on & on about citations from scholars! You really are a comical little fellow Jeffrey......
It's not "pulling from here and there" as much as listening to the evidence, weighing it out and deciding which you agree with.
In other words, "pulling from here & there!"
And not always to you have to find a resolution in the matter. It's okay to say you don't know. Imagine that!
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When it says "not with gold, pearls, or costly apparell." Ughhhh, I think he probably means what he says! Now, be a good little "scholar" & compare that to eating/talking !!!
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07-22-2010, 01:14 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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When it says "not with gold, pearls, or costly apparell." Ughhhh, I think he probably means what he says! Now, be a good little "scholar" & compare that to eating/talking !!!
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Still same strategy I see. "Not with" on repeat x 20 even after you yourself have proven that this phrase without context does not give us interpretation. But as you were
For the LAST time... it's not a point of comparing eating and talking. Read that 20 times just to cover your future repeats. What makes the verse right or wrong is not comparing eating or wearing clothes or talking and decide which is most important and therefore has more meaning. DOH! That's exactly everyone's point to you. You attempted to set-up a straw man by suggesting our "rule" was a blanket, and wouldn't work in certain scriptures ( Romans 13 for example). Our reply was a slap on the forehead -- of course not, because that's not our argument. Way to show you lack listening skills! Our point is the word needs context. You agreed after we submitted verses that were OBVIOUS and you agreed. Now quit playing stupid.... at least I think you're playing.
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07-22-2010, 05:40 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Still same strategy I see. "Not with" on repeat x 20 even after you yourself have proven that this phrase without context does not give us interpretation. But as you were
Well you're getting closer [remember that forest/trees analogy?]. For probably about the 30th X now, the [here, let me help ya' out by putting it in caps] CONTEXT IS ABOUT THE EXTERNAL ADORNMENTS, WHICH HAD A 'N-O-T' ATTACHED TO IT, VS. THE INTERNAL ADORNMENTS, WHICH HAS A 'BUT THIS' TIED TO IT." Hello...is anybody at home????
For the LAST time... it's not a point of comparing eating and talking.
Then quit appealling to the verses....which YOU guys brought up...not me...moving right along....
Read that 20 times just to cover your future repeats. What makes the verse right or wrong is not comparing eating or wearing clothes or talking and decide which is most important and therefore has more meaning. DOH!
More explaining away from the Jeffrey bench...about verses that YOU guys introduced!!! Oh, & it's not a matter of which is "most important," it's a matter of comparing natural things [eating/talking to unnatural things [decorative ornamentation to the temple of God].....now, YOU read that for about the 20th time "to cover your future repeats." !
That's exactly everyone's point to you.
And MY point to them is that they use verses dealing w/ things internally natural to things externally unnatural. Should I put this in another language so you can understand it?
You attempted to set-up a straw man by suggesting our "rule" was a blanket, and wouldn't work in certain scriptures ( Romans 13 for example). Our reply was a slap on the forehead -- of course not, because that's not our argument.
I simply demostrated that you won't be consistent in your usage of self-imposed idioms....& the point still stands, regardless of your backtracking in Eph. 5 & Rom. 13. Fact remains that you're inconsistent....go figure....next....
Way to show you lack listening skills! Our point is the word needs context. You agreed after we submitted verses that were OBVIOUS and you agreed. Now quit playing stupid.... at least I think you're playing.
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Hmmm let's see, "stupid, pharisee, thick, legalist, puritan,".....& you want to school ME on behaviour?? You guys are a hoot...seriously! Repent & believe/obey the Bible!
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07-22-2010, 05:56 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Hmmm let's see, "stupid, pharisee, thick, legalist, puritan,".....& you want to school ME on behaviour?? You guys are a hoot...seriously! Repent & believe/obey the Bible!
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Well you're getting closer [remember that forest/trees analogy?]. For probably about the 30th X now, the [here, let me help ya' out by putting it in caps] CONTEXT IS ABOUT THE EXTERNAL ADORNMENTS, WHICH HAD A 'N-O-T' ATTACHED TO IT, VS. THE INTERNAL ADORNMENTS, WHICH HAS A 'BUT THIS' TIED TO IT." Hello...is anybody at home????
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Seriously, that made about as much sense as a bum on a street corner.
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07-23-2010, 02:05 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Seriously, that made about as much sense as a bum on a street corner.
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Of course you would say that...."the carnal mind is not subject to the things of God, neither indeed CAN BE."
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07-23-2010, 02:07 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Of course you would say that...."the carnal mind is not subject to the things of God, neither indeed CAN BE."
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So because you didn't make sense, I must be carnally-minded?
Shall I bow prostrate before you when I respond? Is that adequate reverence?
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07-23-2010, 02:34 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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So because you didn't make sense, I must be carnally-minded?
Shall I bow prostrate before you when I respond? Is that adequate reverence? 
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So, because you cannot comprehend a very plain sentence...suddenly I'm consigned off to "bum" land??? Tooo funny!
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