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Re: Get your Degree Today
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Fabulous! Nice to see they are raising the bar. Nice move forward.
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That always has been the standard. He didn't raise the bar he lowered it. That's the point. He took a short cut. It's not just that it was less expensive and less time it is that it required so much less input from others into his education.
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07-23-2010, 05:03 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
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You are kidding right?
No serious theological training and yet still the best man to head up UGST?
The Oversight Committee doesn't determine the head of a University. They check the rigor of the program. If they (UGST) begin to operate like University of South Africa guess what? They will lose accreditation in a heartbeat.
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OK I would just have to take your word on that. They do NOT examine the credentials of Faculty and Staff then?
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07-23-2010, 05:06 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
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OK I would just have to take your word on that. They do NOT examine the credentials of Faculty and Staff then?
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They do. But there are not in charge of who is the head of the University.
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07-23-2010, 05:06 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
OUT for supper brothers...
And Oh, INVICTUS was all good. Safe to say my American Dollars would go further there I think.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-23-2010, 06:30 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
Well, i'm with MMM! Why go to the school DKB is the head of, and pay $30,000
when I can do Africa for $3,000? and still be a real degree!
Thank bro DKB! I'll follow your lead...
Max, on you're list of people with degree's, were the last two real or not?
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07-23-2010, 06:34 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
Which by the way Mr. Baron, good job!
Your point is well taken....
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07-23-2010, 06:35 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
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Which by the way Mr. Baron, good job!
Your point is well taken....
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I made some commentary about the last two on my list on the original post.
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07-23-2010, 06:42 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
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How is what I said cynical?
What is the point if it doesn't mean anything?
If it doesn't mean anything then I guess we should just delete that post...after all it is meaningless.
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Im not adding value or speculating value into it, you are. I simply added to the topic of Bernards education. Everyone of your speculative questions were negative. Why is that?
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07-23-2010, 06:46 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
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Originally Posted by Maximilian
It's obvious that some are more "untouchable" with criticism than others.
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Nobody is untouchable. As I said, point out the facts. I never said let's not point out the facts.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-23-2010, 06:51 PM
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Re: Get your Degree Today
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Originally Posted by joyful
This is exactly what I got out of it as well. It's just puzzling. If DKB studied at Wesley Biblical Seminary, a school that is accreditted by the Association of Theological Schools, then why not pursue his degrees there? They even have a distance learning program.
If it's all about money, I think that sends a terrible message about the importance of scholarship and the value of the educational process itself. I want to see DKB promote quality schools to those under his leadership in our movement. He has the educational "chops" to do so. I don't want to see that tarnished.
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You'd have to ask David Bernard
Having studied at a university does not mean someone was persuing a degree from that university.
The University of S Africa is clearly not as good a place to for someone wanting to get a broad theological education as Universities in the US.
Apparently some of you are going to reach your own conclusions about the man's character and education without his side of the story.
Why did he go there? I don't know.
Did he get an education in theology of some kind? Im sure he did but to what degree, again we don't know. I don't see the value in conjecture
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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