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Pressing-On · #1 07-28-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Good question.

We have our good days and bad days. Noble moments and not-so-noble moments.

What does it mean that Job "made a covenant with his eyes?" Job 31

Clarke commentary:

Job 31:1
I made a covenant with mine eyes - ברית כרתי לעיני berith carati leeynai: “I have cut” or divided “the covenant sacrifice with my eyes.” My conscience and my eyes are the contracting parties; God is the Judge; and I am therefore bound not to look upon any thing with a delighted or covetous eye, by which my conscience may be defiled, or my God dishonored.

Gill:

Job 31:1 I made a covenant with mine eyes,.... Not to look upon a woman, and wantonly gaze at her beauty, lest his heart should be drawn thereby to lust after her; for the eyes are inlets to many sins, and particularly to uncleanness, of which there have been instances, both in bad men and good men, Gen_34:2; so the poet (t) represents the eye as the way through which the beauty of a woman passes swifter than an arrow into the hearts of men, and makes impressions there; see 2Pe_2:14; hence Zaleucus ordered adulterers to be punished, by plucking out the eyes of the adulterer (u); wherefore Job, to prevent this, entered into a solemn engagement with himself, laid himself under a strong obligation, as if he had bound himself by a covenant, made a resolution in the strength of divine grace, not to employ his eyes in looking on objects that might ensnare his heart, and lead him to the commission of sin; he made use of all ways and means, and took every precaution to guard against it; and particularly this, to shut or turn his eyes from beholding what might be alluring and enticing to him: it is said (x) of Democritus, that he put out his eyes because he could not look upon a woman without lusting after her:

ILG · #2 07-28-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Gill:

Job 31:1 I made a covenant with mine eyes,.... Not to look upon a woman, and wantonly gaze at her beauty, lest his heart should be drawn thereby to lust after her; for the eyes are inlets to many sins, and particularly to uncleanness, of which there have been instances, both in bad men and good men, Gen_34:2; so the poet (t) represents the eye as the way through which the beauty of a woman passes swifter than an arrow into the hearts of men, and makes impressions there; see 2Pe_2:14; hence Zaleucus ordered adulterers to be punished, by plucking out the eyes of the adulterer (u); wherefore Job, to prevent this, entered into a solemn engagement with himself, laid himself under a strong obligation, as if he had bound himself by a covenant, made a resolution in the strength of divine grace, not to employ his eyes in looking on objects that might ensnare his heart, and lead him to the commission of sin; he made use of all ways and means, and took every precaution to guard against it; and particularly this, to shut or turn his eyes from beholding what might be alluring and enticing to him: it is said (x) of Democritus, that he put out his eyes because he could not look upon a woman without lusting after her:

Wantonly. Yeah, I would have a problem with my husband wantonly looking at another woman. But seeing her and seeing she is beautiful? Big deal. Other women exist, yeah, better looking than me. But, I am his wife and he loves me.

Pressing-On · #3 07-28-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Wantonly. Yeah, I would have a problem with my husband wantonly looking at another woman. But seeing her and seeing she is beautiful? Big deal. Other women exist, yeah, better looking than me. But, I am his wife and he loves me.

Agreed!! I would have a problem with wantonly for sure! LOL!

ILG · #4 07-28-2010, 10:49 AM

Another guy who is good looking but who is a pup is Zac Efron. Way too young but if I was 20?? LOL!

Pressing-On · #5 07-28-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Another guy who is good looking but who is a pup is Zac Efron. Way too young but if I was 20?? LOL!

He's too pretty! LOL!

ILG · #6 07-28-2010, 10:54 AM

When I was young, I was in luv with Timothy Hutton.

I also was in luv with Robby Benson but I can't for the life of me figure out why now! LOL

I think we have really hijacked this thread. Someone is going to wish we would fly it into a tall building so it explodes!!

Socialite · #7 07-28-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

When I was young, I was in luv with Timothy Hutton.

I also was in luv with Robby Benson but I can't for the life of me figure out why now! LOL

I think we have really hijacked this thread. Someone is going to wish we would fly it into a tall building so it explodes!!

The irony of this thread hijack couldn't be sweeter.

Maximilian · #8 07-28-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Wantonly. Yeah, I would have a problem with my husband wantonly looking at another woman. But seeing her and seeing she is beautiful? Big deal. Other women exist, yeah, better looking than me. But, I am his wife and he loves me.

That's the word you zoned in on? I think ol' Gill uses many words to give us a sense of the verse. Thanks for posting PO.

Adam Clarke said this: I am therefore bound not to look upon any thing with a delighted or covetous eye, by which my conscience may be defiled, or my God dishonored.

What does this all mean?
Wanton = immoral, unchaste, lewd, undisciplined, immoral
Only a man knows his thoughts.

ILG · #9 07-28-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

That's the word you zoned in on? I think ol' Gill uses many words to give us a sense of the verse. Thanks for posting PO.

Adam Clarke said this: I am therefore bound not to look upon any thing with a delighted or covetous eye, by which my conscience may be defiled, or my God dishonored.

What does this all mean?
Wanton = immoral, unchaste, lewd, undisciplined, immoral
Only a man knows his thoughts.

Right. And as a woman I have decided to stop judging my husband on these matters. He knows how I feel and since I have stopped judging, things have improved a lot. The only other option is to wrap a man up and put blinders on him.

This is also every woman's battle in an inverted sense. Women aren't lusting after the men they see and are probably monogamous by nature. We have to learn to let go of our fears, which I think are honestly fueled sometimes by religion.

Pressing-On · #10 07-28-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Right. And as a woman I have decided to stop judging my husband on these matters. He knows how I feel and since I have stopped judging, things have improved a lot. The only other option is to wrap a man up and put blinders on him.

This is also every woman's battle in an inverted sense. Women aren't lusting after the men they see and are probably monogamous by nature. We have to learn to let go of our fears, which I think are honestly fueled sometimes by religion.

I think some women may have more of a propensity to flirt than a man. Notice I say "some".