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[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Well I guess our definitions of OP vary. I also see OP as more broad than Oneness churches. Jentezen Franklin came from an OP background, and it was more along the lines of rigid rules. You are correct what you said about Pentecostals and tongues. As far as baptism, my point was that TD may use the formula (word has it he uses the mt 28:19 language and adds "which is Jesus") but he is certainly not dogmatic about it as OP's are.

So here is a case in point...

I am OP (attend a UPC) and I would disagree with Jakes - if he really does say "Which is Jesus".

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

So here is a case in point...

I am OP (attend a UPC) and I would disagree with Jakes - if he really does say "Which is Jesus".

Is Jakes still "OP" though?

And is he "OP" if he says "in the name of the Lord Jesus" but accepts baptisms in various other ways?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Is Jakes still "OP" though?

And is he "OP" if he says "in the name of the Lord Jesus" but accepts baptisms in various other ways?

I think so. It's not so important that one calls himself OP/Apostolic etc...

And yes, I also think our early PCI minded founders of the UPC were still OP, even if they expected to see their Trinitarian brethren in heaven one day!