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Old 08-12-2010, 01:40 PM
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That would make sense, that any inch of space in NYC is not wasted. They probably have very interesting combinations of shops together.

BTW is your friend apart of a coalition against the building of the masque? I am really hoping they fight this thing tooth and nail.
No, he's an attorney who believes that any legal attempt to stop the mosque is doomed to fail under the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA). Interestingly enough, the same people who are against the mosque have had no problems in the past with churches using the RLUIPA to overcome challenges to church expansions, renovations, etc.

He also lives in Manhattan and personally has no problem with it.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:26 PM
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No, he's an attorney who believes that any legal attempt to stop the mosque is doomed to fail under the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA). Interestingly enough, the same people who are against the mosque have had no problems in the past with churches using the RLUIPA to overcome challenges to church expansions, renovations, etc.

He also lives in Manhattan and personally has no problem with it.

I don't think the issue is a masque being built, it is the fact that is being constructed at ground zero and it's opening is 9/11/11, the ten year anniversary of 9/11.

I am taken a back a little that he has no problem with it-amazing.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:20 PM
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I don't think the issue is a masque being built, it is the fact that is being constructed at ground zero and it's opening is 9/11/11, the ten year anniversary of 9/11.

I am taken a back a little that he has no problem with it-amazing.
It's actually not AT Ground Zero. It is two blocks away. And there's already an adult club and other not-so-savory enterprises closer.

I'm not surprised my friend isn't opposed; he's lived in NYC most of his adult life and was there on 9/11. He doesn't blame the entire Muslim religion for the acts of a few terrorist nutballs--most of whom were citizens of America's good ally, Saudi Arabia.
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It's actually not AT Ground Zero. It is two blocks away. And there's already an adult club and other not-so-savory enterprises closer.

I'm not surprised my friend isn't opposed; he's lived in NYC most of his adult life and was there on 9/11. He doesn't blame the entire Muslim religion for the acts of a few terrorist nutballs--most of whom were citizens of America's good ally, Saudi Arabia.
2 blocks away is rather close, and you answered my question your friend will not be opposing the construction of this muslim site.

As far as the rest of your comments, I guess it would be better to talk to him directly than to debate in 3rd person. It's hard to tell if you are speaking for him or yourself.

It doesn't matter if you or whoever doesn't blame the other muslims. That is not the point. It is the proximity that is disturbing. They don't seem to mind that Americans are bothered and hurt over their actions. If it is really not an act (the construction of their mosque) that is anyway in related to 9/11 then instead of being 2 blocks away why not 2 or 3 miles away and why on earth is their planned opening on 9/11/11 if the 2 events are in no way related?

Of course my question are rhetorical and do not need to answer-thank you.
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