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Originally Posted by Baron1710
I don't think Christianity is defined by a set of rules. Christianity is defined by a relationship with Jesus Christ. How that relationship looks may vary some from person to person. While there is some common factors, God deals with each person and their unique background and struggles.
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Hi Baron,
I must try to help you see the error of this post. Indeed a relationship with Yeshua is what being a disciple is all about. The problem is when you or anyone like minded attempts to make the relationship something apart from obedience to his rules.
Yeshua has made it very clear we cannot be in a relationship with him unless we "do his rules". Rules and commands are the same thing of course.
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3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:3
That is exactly how Yeshua judges your love relationship to him.! If you are keeping his rules that how he knows you love him.
Do we have a relationship with Yeshua
APART FROM his rules?
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 1 John 2:4-5
According to him the answer is no. It is not true that we all have a relationship with Yeshua that looks different. It is true that we all have intimacy with him. Yet our relationship with him is to be according to the guidelines of his rules.
[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:21
Having his rules and keeping them is the demonstration of our love for him that
HE recognizes.
[9] As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
[10] If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:9-10
If we keep his commandments Christ will love us. Love is the flow of affection between people that we call a "relationship".
Yeshua is not involved in a relationship where his rules are minimized or discarded. One may possibly have a lapse into sin and be restored into the relationship.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1
It is the doctrines and rules of
MEN that Paul or any other true Minister would be warning us against. The rules of Yeshua are not greivous.
Yeshua calls men into a relationship with him by grace which means he shows them favor in some way that they might believe. Upon entering that relationship we are given "rules" to live by.
[18] And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matt. 28:18-20
Todays Churches Oneness or otherwise put little emphasis on
TEACHING THE COMMANDS (RULES) OF YESHUA. They are neglecting part of the great commission.
The modern Churches are a mess because this portion of Yeshua's commission has been deleted.
So you are right about one thing. Chasing around after the rules of men has no value in spiritual warfare.
But in neglecting the rules of Yeshua one will find himself unable to enter the Kingdom Of Heaven.
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev. 22:P14
Hope this helps
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