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Old 08-15-2010, 08:04 AM
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When did you decide the clerics of this Mosque were anti-American?

You sir, sound so virtuous.

I think by over-reacting on everything he says it only serves to make some look like Right Wing nut job, religious fundy, Islamaphobes. React when it counts for something. And FTR, having an opinion that you can articulate reasons why concerning the mosque is one thing, hanging Barack on it is baseless.

By a casual review of his history and rhetoric.

The Muslims have one underlying objective, and that is to establish Islam in the whole world. And the fact is, they are aggressively pursuing that goal, and by not recognizing this fact, and resisting this pursuit we facilitate the same.

My virtue is not the issue in this discussion, so by attacking my person, serves to make you look like a liberal that loves feely, touchy, but lacks the moral courage to stand against glaring evil in our world. Islam is truly the current wolf in sheep's clothing, radical Islam is the wolf.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:07 AM
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The Muslims have one underlying objective, and that is to establish Islam in the whole world. And the fact is, they are aggressively pursuing that goal, and by not recognizing this fact, and resisting this pursuit we facilitate the same.

My virtue is not the issue in this discussion, so by attacking my person, serves to make you look like a liberal that loves feely, touchy, but lacks the moral courage to stand against glaring evil in our world. Islam is truly the current wolf in sheep's clothing, radical Islam is the wolf.
It doesn't matter ... they're all saved and if they achieve their "agenda" ... we'd be saved as Muslims in your theology ... Politically you don't match up ... Your generalizations about all Muslims can be said about all Christians, Crakjak ... and still be ignant.
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:55 PM
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It doesn't matter ... they're all saved and if they achieve their "agenda" ... we'd be saved as Muslims in your theology ... Politically you don't match up ... Your generalizations about all Muslims can be said about all Christians, Crakjak ... and still be ignant.
IRRELEVANT! This isn't about CJ's warped doctrine now Dan
Just kidding CJ
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It doesn't matter ... they're all saved and if they achieve their "agenda" ... we'd be saved as Muslims in your theology ... Politically you don't match up ... Your generalizations about all Muslims can be said about all Christians, Crakjak ... and still be ignant.
Again, classic liberal response!! Change the subject and personally attack the opposition!

The subject is not about whether Muslims will eventually be saved, it is about American government doing their job to keep our enemies from infiltrating. Which, BTW, it has done a sorry job of doing. While Obama, opines about the NYC mosque, and apologizes for US past polices of strength. He is a neophyte, that is bedazzled by old leftover liberal terrorists from the 1960's.
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By a casual review of his history and rhetoric.

The Muslims have one underlying objective, and that is to establish Islam in the whole world. And the fact is, they are aggressively pursuing that goal, and by not recognizing this fact, and resisting this pursuit we facilitate the same.

My virtue is not the issue in this discussion, so by attacking my person, serves to make you look like a liberal that loves feely, touchy, but lacks the moral courage to stand against glaring evil in our world. Islam is truly the current wolf in sheep's clothing, radical Islam is the wolf.
Wait a minute....isn't that what YOU and every other person, pretty much, on this forum wants to do with Christianity? You want to, they want to.
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Wait a minute....isn't that what YOU and every other person, pretty much, on this forum wants to do with Christianity? You want to, they want to.
Not really. Christians want to spread Christianity as a message. They do not, as a religion, want to force Christianity on everyone and establish Christian based theocracies instead of democracies
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Wait a minute....isn't that what YOU and every other person, pretty much, on this forum wants to do with Christianity? You want to, they want to.
Yep, but not out of fear of being slaughtered, or marginalized. Rather by loving and friendly communication, at each person's choice.
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