Speaking In Tongues Does Not Equal Salvation.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Peter told them they crucified the Lord, and that is what he meant when he told them to repent. It matters not how we assess the picture, that is what Peter meant. You asked for the sin, I gave it per Peter's words.



He said YOU crucified Him and said YOU repent. You just have to disagree with Peter.

They did not crucify Jesus therefore that can't be what Peter meant.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jfrog

They did not crucify Jesus therefore that can't be what Peter meant.

He told them they did!

Acts 2:23 KJV Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:


Acts 2:36 KJV Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Do not stretch reason, bro. However way one slices it, Peter said they crucified the Lord. Accept what Peter said and adjust your thoughts accordingly.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

He told them they did!

Acts 2:23 KJV Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:


Acts 2:36 KJV Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Do not stretch reason, bro. However way one slices it, Peter said they crucified the Lord. Accept what Peter said and adjust your thoughts accordingly.

They as individuals did not crucify Jesus though. Definetely not directly which is what Peter claimed someone did. Therefore Peter wasn't saying they did something that they didn't do.

They as a nation did crucify Jesus.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jfrog

They as individuals did not crucify Jesus though. Definetely not directly which is what Peter claimed someone did. Therefore Peter wasn't saying they did something that they didn't do.

They as a nation did crucify Jesus.

Brother, the context is plain. Whatever conclusion you want to draw from Peter's words, the fact is Peter said YE CRUCIFIED, they asked WHAT SHALL WE DO, and Peter said Repent. If you are right they would have said, "Wait a minute! We never directly crucified him. Go and tell someone else they crucified him and they need to repent, but do not tell some of us, since some of us did not do that." But they took his words, never argued with them, and asked what they should do as a result. You are really reaching here to avoid this, bro.

Peter: YE

People: WE?

Peter: REPENT

When did YE no longer mean YE? Peter told some people whom he called "YE" that they crucified the Lord, and that was sin people had to repent of. Obviously it is the ones to whom he preached. I say YOU when I speak to you, do I not? And the ones who asked what should they do were the ones Peter told to repent. Seems perfectly plain to me.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Brother, the context is plain. Whatever conclusion you want to draw from Peter's words, the fact is Peter said YE CRUCIFIED, they asked WHAT SHALL WE DO, and Peter said Repent. If you are right they would have said, "Wait a minute! We never directly crucified him. Go and tell someone else they crucified him and they need to repent, but do not tell some of us, since some of us did not do that." But they took his words, never argued with them, and asked what they should do as a result. You are really reaching here to avoid this, bro.

Peter: YE

People: WE?

Peter: REPENT

When did YE no longer mean YE? Peter told some people whom he called "YE" that they crucified the Lord, and that was sin people had to repent of. Obviously it is the ones to whom he preached. I say YOU when I speak to you, do I not? And the ones who asked what should they do were the ones Peter told to repent. Seems perfectly plain to me.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

In Acts 2:36 "ye" refers to all the house of Israel. If all the house of Israel are directly responsible for Christ's crucifixion then so are the apostles for they were of the house of Israel. The fact is that no where in the story of Christ's crucifixion is every jew said to have taken part in it. In fact it is quite clear that every Jew did not. Did Peter or any of the other apostles? Surely you will answer no. But that is what Peter said, that all the house of Israel crucified Jesus. The fact is that not every Jew was involved in Jesus being crucified, the apostles being the best examples. So you must go back to the drawing board about applying the guilt of Christ's death directly to all individual jews.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

In Acts 2:36 "ye" refers to all the house of Israel. If all the house of Israel are directly responsible for Christ's crucifixion then so are the apostles for they were of the house of Israel.

You overcomplicate a simple issue. If Peter felt he addressed those people as the house of Israel in part, then so be it. The point is he said YE.

'Nuff said. You know you lost this one, bro.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You overcomplicate a simple issue. If Peter felt he addressed those people as the house of Israel in part, then so be it. The point is he said YE.

'Nuff said. You know you lost this one, bro.

Lol. Whatever Blume. You at least try to answer questions most the time. But it doesn't take you too long to get to doing the same ole thing most others do. Avoiding the direct questions and just keeping on throwing out points as at if by avoiding the question and saying something else you have answered the question.