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Old 08-20-2010, 11:02 AM
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Re: John MacArthur: POLYTHEIST?

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John is a died and true reformed hyper Calvanist. His theology is mixed up IMO and he does not understand God's love. Trinitarians do not believe in 3 gods, however John is a legalist at heart which far surpasses any damage trinitarianism would ever do.
MacArthur is a legalist?

I think you are out of your mind.

Then again, some would say Paul Washer is a legalist too.


Neither one of these guys are legalistic in the sermons I have heard them preach.
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John is a died and true reformed hyper Calvanist. His theology is mixed up IMO and he does not understand God's love. Trinitarians do not believe in 3 gods, however John is a legalist at heart which far surpasses any damage trinitarianism would ever do.
Can you qualify this statement? Id like evidence that a hypercalvanist is a legalist...isn't that an oxymoron?

He's a hyper Calvanist yet John is a legalist?

What does either have to do with his view of the Trinity?
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MacArthur is a legalist?

I think you are out of your mind.

Then again, some would say Paul Washer is a legalist too.


Neither one of these guys are legalistic in the sermons I have heard them preach.
No no. Mac is a hyper Calvanist...no wait...he's a legalist...no wait....oh wait...he's a trinitarian...no he must not be a Trinitarian because John is a legalistic hyper Calvanist?????
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How can a trinitarina ...
I know it is a typo and we all make them, but that is cool little word. Trinitarina. lol
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I know it is a typo and we all make them, but that is cool little word. Trinitarina. lol
You made a typo yourself...insert "a" between is and cool..lol
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You made a typo yourself...insert "a" between is and cool..lol
Yes, I did.

I thought about a Trinitarina being a female trinitarian.
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I know it is a typo and we all make them, but that is cool little word. Trinitarina. lol
Isn't a Trinitarina an Italian lady who believes in the trinity?
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John is a died and true reformed hyper Calvanist. His theology is mixed up IMO and he does not understand God's love. Trinitarians do not believe in 3 gods, however John is a legalist at heart which far surpasses any damage trinitarianism would ever do.
I normally don't comment much nowadays, but this is slander. MacArthur is NOT a hyper-Calvinist. A Calvinist, yes....But a hyper-Calvinist, absolutely not.

A hyper-Calvinist is someone who either:

Denies that the gospel call applies to all who hear, OR
Denies that faith is the duty of every sinner, OR
Denies that the gospel makes any "offer" of Christ, salvation, or mercy to the non-elect (or denies that the offer of divine mercy is free and universal), OR
Denies that there is such a thing as "common grace," OR
Denies that God has any sort of love for the non-elect.
(Cited from this link: http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/articles/hypercal.htm )

None of these definitions describe MacArthur even remotely.

And what do you mean by "legalist"?

***Edit: I didn't even realize until just now that the article cited above was written by Phil Johnson, director of Grace to You, John Mac's teaching ministry. Johnson is obviously against hyper-Calvinism. ***
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Isn't a Trinitarina an Italian lady who believes in the trinity?
Yes, Italian or Spanish, anyway.
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No no. Mac is a hyper Calvanist...no wait...he's a legalist...no wait....oh wait...he's a trinitarian...no he must not be a Trinitarian because John is a legalistic hyper Calvanist?????
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