Speaking In Tongues Does Not Equal Salvation.

[faithit166]

i was just wondering if you had ever experienced speaking in tongues,or are you just speaking things you know not

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by faithit166

i was just wondering if you had ever experienced speaking in tongues,or are you just speaking things you know not

Have you ever experienced receiving the Holy Ghost at repentance without speaking in tongues or do you just speak about things you know not?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Have you ever experienced receiving the Holy Ghost at repentance without speaking in tongues or do you just speak about things you know not?

The people to whom the Epistle of Ephesians was written are called "saints" in Eph 1:1.
And Paul identifies with them as being fellow believers by using the term "us" several times as in saying that God has chosen us in Him... and saying that God predestined us... Eph 1:4-5)
Then Ephesians 1:13 says that the Holy Spirit had indwelt them from the time they believed:
And now you Gentiles have also heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.

But later in chapter 5 verse 18 he encourages them to be filled with the Spirit. Others have stated that the words mean to be ongoingly filled with the Spirit, or be being filled with the Spirit, or keep getting filled with the Spirit.

There is a difference between the Spirit coming in to dwell at the birth of the Spirit and subsequent experiences of being filled with the Spirit or the Spirit coming upon or the Spirit falling upon or receiving (making room for) the Holy Spirit.

In the first century church over 500 believers saw Jesus after His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:6). Later, as He ascended, Jesus told His disciples to wait in Jerusalem until they were empowered by the Holy Spirit. He called this empowering a baptism in the Spirit and also called the experience the Holy Spirit coming upon you (Acts 1:4-8). Ten days when the Spirit came upon them or when they were baptized in the Spirit on Pentecost Sunday, the experience is also called being filled with the Spirit in Acts 2:4. When Peter described the experience he called it the Spirit being poured out, being shed forth, and called it the promise of the Father (Acts 2:17, 33, 39).

For many years, Apostolics, Pentecostals, Charismatics, and other Christians have seen the birth of the Spirit, or salvation by the Spirit, or Jesus coming into the heart as the Holy Spirit to be a separate experience from being filled with the Spirit, or receiving (making room for) the Holy Spirit, or being baptized in the Spirit, or being empowered by the Spirit, or the Holy Spirit coming upon or falling on an individual.

[faithit166]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Have you ever experienced receiving the Holy Ghost at repentance without speaking in tongues or do you just speak about things you know not?

when god lead me to a pentecostal alter and i repented from the bottom of my feet to the top of my head was like a rushing mighty wind going thru me my tears were gone my sadness and my pain i had never felt this before i felt like i was on cloud nine i was filled with the holy ghost that same night tho i got baptized in jesus name when i came up out of the water i started praising god and then began speaking in another language beings i new nothing about all this i had to ask later what it all was,now that i have answered you wont you so kindly answer me?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by faithit166

when god lead me to a pentecostal alter and i repented from the bottom of my feet to the top of my head was like a rushing mighty wind going thru me my tears were gone my sadness and my pain i had never felt this before i felt like i was on cloud nine i was filled with the holy ghost that same night tho i got baptized in jesus name when i came up out of the water i started praising god and then began speaking in another language beings i new nothing about all this i had to ask later what it all was,now that i have answered you wont you so kindly answer me?

I will not tell you if I have spoken in tongues or not. You asked the question only to try and beef up your argument. Such emotional appeals don't belong in a doctrinal discussion.