Did God use evolution to create life

[BroGary]

That same verse goes against evolution:

24And God said, LET THE EARTH BRING FORTH THE LIVING CREATURE after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

God made everything to reproduce after it's own kind, meaning that apple seeds will produce apple trees, ect. and humans will produce humans, animals will produce animals, ect.

Evolution would have you believe that apes could produce something not after it's own kind that evolved into humans.

Evolution also would indicate that God was not capable of creating things good and perfect from the start, that they had to evolve to improve on the original creation.

God is all powerful, He spoke the billions and billions of stars into existance !

Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by BroGary

Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

God appearently hasn't been on AFF very much lately, theres alot of doubters here who disbelieve He is able to do what His Word says He did. Creation is among those things that some HAVE appearently thought too hard for God. As though it was impossible for creation as we know it to come about except through millions (if not billions) of years.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

God appearently hasn't been on AFF very much lately, theres alot of doubters here who disbelieve He is able to do what His Word says He did. Creation is among those things that some HAVE appearently thought too hard for God. As though it was impossible for creation as we know it to come about except through millions (if not billions) of years.

Mr. Spiritual Badejo, it has nothing to do with God's ability and everything to do with God's methodology. Have you considered that God is powerful enough to have use evolutionary methodology to create our existence?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Mr. Spiritual Badejo, it has nothing to do with God's ability and everything to do with God's methodology. Have you considered that God is powerful enough to have use evolutionary methodology to create our existence?

Indeed, Dearest Mr. Smith, however His Word specifically and plainly says he did it in 6 days.

EXODUS 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Just sayin'.....

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Indeed, Dearest Mr. Smith, however His Word specifically and plainly says he did it in 6 days.

EXODUS 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Just sayin'.....

Surely you're sharp enough to consider the figurative nature of the word, "Day" and the considerable evidence that the word represents an "Age."

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Surely you're sharp enough to consider the figurative nature of the word, "Day" and the considerable evidence that the word represents an "Age."

Where's the "figurative" even hinted in ANY scripture related to creation in the Bible? Please quote it so that I can consider it.

Everytime creation is the topic the days are presented as being literal days, not ages of untold millions of years.

The same school of thought denies the legitimacy of Noah and the Ark, making it to be a fairy tale. Once you start whittling down what God is able to do, there is ALOT of Bible to whittle down.

Noah and the Ark-just figurative. Probably wasn't even a man named Noah.

Sodom and Ghommorah? just figurative, God just wants people to be nice....you know, the sin wasn't "really" homosexuality, but unhospitality

Lot's Wife... just figurative

The Red Sea Crossing....not real either

Manna from heaven....have YOU ever seen manna?

Virgin birth......impossible

Ressurection......just figurative

Eternal life.......

on and on it goes.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Where's the "figurative" even hinted in ANY scripture related to creation in the Bible? Please quote it so that I can consider it.

Everytime creation is the topic the days are presented as being literal days, not ages of untold millions of years.

In summing up the creation account that you have cited from Genesis 1, as part of the segue to an alternate account in Chapter 2, the Author of Genesis says in Genesis 2:4:

"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens..."

We haven't even moved more than just a few verses beyond the passage you cited and already the Bible itself contradicts your theory.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

The same school of thought denies the legitimacy of Noah and the Ark, making it to be a fairy tale. Once you start whittling down what God is able to do, there is ALOT of Bible to whittle down.

We've covered this so many times it's almost ad naseum. Just as you were wrong to have worked yourself up into a "vomiting" mode because you misheard John MacArthur on the matter of "God's counsel" (and not "council") - so you have also decided to become a firebrand for another issue that you really have never studied out.

Stay cool, Bro. I'm here to help!

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Noah and the Ark-just figurative. Probably wasn't even a man named Noah.

Was there "really" a "rich man" and a "beggar named Lazarus" in Luke 16? The "rich man" character appears frequently in a number of parables in this chapter and even the broader context of Jesus' teachings at the feast in the home of the pharisee.

You blithely accept the idea that there was "really" no "rich man." And, the Lazarus we know from the Gospel of John was hardly a "beggar" since he owned a house and property. (In fact, many commentators have posited that our Lord's unnamed host in Luke 14:1 - Luke 17:10, may have been the Lazarus that Jesus raised from the dead in John 11). Thus Jesus may have deliberately introduced the name of his host into the parable as He disputed with the other pharisees present - but that's a different topic.

The point here is that parables contain details that are REAL, though the "story" itself is not intended to be understood as "history."

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Sodom and Ghommorah? just figurative, God just wants people to be nice....you know, the sin wasn't "really" homosexuality, but unhospitality.

You would have to concede that homosexual gang rape is an "inhospitable" act, wouldn't you? The "hospitality" that the rulers of Sodom failed to show the visitors (angels) wasn't that they didn't leave a mint on their pillows. That's the point the hand wringing liberals leave out. By "hospitality" in the ancient setting, they were supposed to protect the sojourners from violence, robbery and crime. The "men of Sodom" were guilty of even baser crimes.

And, there is geological and archeological evidence that "cities" in the ancient pattern existed in the area that is now covered by the Dead Sea. With the Dead Sea shrinking at a rather fast pace, more discoveries will certainly turn up.

But the point is, we have evidence as to a "literal" judgment befalling communities in that area. We have no evidence that all of the continents were covered by a flood of water up to 5 miles deep just 4,000 years ago. And, why didn't anyone match up the genealogies like Bishop Ussher did until he performed the feat in 1640? Why didn't the mass of Christendom already have a "date" and "age" for the world long ago? You Young Earth literalism is actually a novelty as ideas go.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Lot's Wife... just figurative

The Red Sea Crossing....not real either

Manna from heaven....have YOU ever seen manna?

Virgin birth......impossible

Ressurection......just figurative

Eternal life.......

on and on it goes.

No, "on and on" YOU go. And by the fumbling manner that you handled Genesis 1 & 2, I'd have to say that you probably don't speak for many people who have actually studied this matter.

No offense intended. But you should limit your "firebrand" comments for the issues that you're a bit more familiar with.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Where's the "figurative" even hinted in ANY scripture related to creation in the Bible? Please quote it so that I can consider it.

Noah and the Ark-just figurative. Probably wasn't even a man named Noah.

Sodom and Ghommorah? just figurative, God just wants people to be nice....you know, the sin wasn't "really" homosexuality, but unhospitality

Lot's Wife... just figurative

The Red Sea Crossing....not real either

Manna from heaven....have YOU ever seen manna?

Virgin birth......impossible

Ressurection......just figurative

Eternal life.......

on and on it goes.

Every time the word "day"is used in the Old Testament and modified by an ordinal, it means 24 hour day.


God is not flakey with words.
God didn't define 6 days here differently that the definition of the 7th day.
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Same writer
Same bible
Same book of the bible
Same God says:

10And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

If an honest godly person interprets scripture correctly, under what basis does the duration of seven days change between Genesis chapter 2 and Genesis chapter 7?

Using Darwinism to interpret scripture was not available to the OT prophets and writers.
These same folowers of Darwin say the 6 days referred to in the 10 suggestions are different days than the 7 th day which is the sabbath day.

Long-agers generally teach that Genesis 1 means something other than what it says, such as that it is theological poetry, or an allegory involving metaphorical people.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Surely you're sharp enough to consider the figurative nature of the word, "Day" and the considerable evidence that the word represents an "Age."

"Evidence" From a psychologist point of view, this is imagined and wishfull thinking. Since for it to be science, it would have to be observed.

I love the WORD. The serpent was the first example of claiming what God says was "figurative" in expression.
It turned out that God's word to Adam was not merely figurative.

Genesis 3
1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

The serpent was the first apologist to tell us to NOT take the word litterally.
How did that work out?

16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

It appears Adam got the death sentence the day he sinned.

We have apologists today that follow the lead of the serpent and battle against a literal reading and understanding of Gods word whether it is history or instructions.

Truth. Were the first chapters of Genesis true or not?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Mr. Spiritual Badejo, it has nothing to do with God's ability and everything to do with God's methodology. Have you considered that God is powerful enough to have use evolutionary methodology to create our existence?

When God said

31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

I take it you do not understand evolution. You do seem to understand speciation. But that creates no new structures. Evolution has said that it is by reason of mutations that we have change over time. Of course out of 800,000 mutations, 1 is beneficial. The rest are detrimental and out of those most are fatal.
No one can show a way in which a 3 chamber heart can in a single step scoot the pulmonary artery to the aorta without killing the animal. But they say 4 chambered hearts came from 3 chambered hearts.
I can from memory give dozens of impossiblilties in evolution. The Darwinists do not have the fossils to prove what they claim.
Evolutionists argue life came from non life.
It has never been observed.