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08-23-2010, 03:17 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
I think we can get to far out however winning souls should be our main focus...so in preparing for services we must examine who we are really reaching out to...years ago going into little catholic villages I new a couple little catholic songs that talked only about Jesus sometimes I would sing them...seemed to help me reach new people...
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08-23-2010, 03:23 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I think we can get to far out however winning souls should be our main focus...so in preparing for services we must examine who we are really reaching out to...years ago going into little catholic villages I new a couple little catholic songs that talked only about Jesus sometimes I would sing them...seemed to help me reach new people...
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The main focus is to use wisdom, which you have expressed rather wisely. (as you always do)
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08-23-2010, 03:30 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
One of the most disgusting, sexually suggestive songs I've ever heard in church was a "Worship Chorus".
The lyrics:
Into your chamber, Sweet Holy Spirit
Speak to me gently as I close the door
Heavenly lover let thy Spirit hover
Shakinah unending is all I long for.
I think I'd rather go with "Let It Be" or "Rise Above This" or "Come Alive" by Foo Fighters.
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08-23-2010, 07:05 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
One of the most disgusting, sexually suggestive songs I've ever heard in church was a "Worship Chorus".
The lyrics:
Into your chamber, Sweet Holy Spirit
Speak to me gently as I close the door
Heavenly lover let thy Spirit hover
Shakinah unending is all I long for.
I think I'd rather go with "Let It Be" or "Rise Above This" or "Come Alive" by Foo Fighters.
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ouch.
I'm definetely uncomfortable with that. Doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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08-23-2010, 07:35 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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ouch.
I'm definetely uncomfortable with that. Doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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...and the same goes for secular music. Just because some of it is bad doesn't mean that a lot of it can't be used for GREAT benefit in the church!!!
Mmmmm......so it's NOT just secular music that's the problem. See there? There are problematic Christian songs and problematic secular songs. It's our job, as people who are empowered by the Holy Spirit, to wisely select what we're going to do in our church gatherings.
You need to listen to some Coldplay and then explain to me how in the world their music could be damaging to the cause of Christ.
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08-24-2010, 09:55 AM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
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You need to listen to some Coldplay and then explain to me how in the world their music could be damaging to the cause of Christ.
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Wrong question. How does it glorify the Kingdom?
http://www.coldplay.com/
If you all want to see Coldplays nekid home page.
Coldplays lead vocalist sounds very bad. Their music is pathetic. This appeals to kids that do not appreciate fine voice.
My teen has performed in Carnegie hall a capella. You can hide a bad voice behind loud noise.
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08-24-2010, 11:52 AM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by coadie
Wrong question. How does it glorify the Kingdom?
http://www.coldplay.com/
If you all want to see Coldplays nekid home page.
Coldplays lead vocalist sounds very bad. Their music is pathetic. This appeals to kids that do not appreciate fine voice.
My teen has performed in Carnegie hall a capella. You can hide a bad voice behind loud noise.
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Wrong. Coldplay is a good band. He doesn't have the best voice in the world, but he can sing. Plus, their lyrics and sound connect on an emotional level. It it didn't, they wouldn't have the massive following that they do. I'm sure your son is very talented, btw. But vocal talent alone does not make a great band.
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08-24-2010, 12:10 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by OnTheFritz
Wrong. Coldplay is a good band. He doesn't have the best voice in the world, but he can sing. Plus, their lyrics and sound connect on an emotional level. It it didn't, they wouldn't have the massive following that they do. I'm sure your son is very talented, btw. But vocal talent alone does not make a great band.
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Blues, Country, Opera etc are to connect on emotional level.
http://www.coldplay.com/
It is called eros or lust of the flesh. Two buck nekid people on their home page. This is porn/obscene. Sex sells. The Ancient Greeks into this. I am ok with this secular music till they cross the line in either vulgar lyrics or in this case nudity.
Madonna has a huge audience. Michael Jackson.
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