Trinity and Oneness in The Church?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yes, I believe that the church, The Body of Christ, is made up of both trinity and oneness believers but isn't limited to only those folks. The body of Christ is also made up of folks who didn't even know there was a Christ.

Unless People accept Christ as their saviour they are not part of the body of Christ. I would challenge you to provide a biblical basis for your statement I have bolded. I can provide you with plenty supporting my view.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by CC1

Unless People accept Christ as their saviour they are not part of the body of Christ. I would challenge you to provide a biblical basis for your statement I have bolded. I can provide you with plenty supporting my view.

You know CC1, you always have those trying to add to the Bible on both sides of a discussion-- lib and con.

Seekerman's statement makes me wonder how does he interpret the words of Jesus when He said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the ....."

It's not even important that I finish the quote-- I don't think the Bible is important to Seekerman.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

You know CC1, you always have those trying to add to the Bible on both sides of a discussion-- lib and con.

Seekerman's statement makes me wonder how does he interpret the words of Jesus when He said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the ....."

Tell me how David accepted Christ, was baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues please. How on earth did David come to the Father through the Christ when the Christ was to be presented to the world 1000 years later?

It's not even important that I finish the quote-- I don't think the Bible is important to Seekerman.

Some of it is, some of it isn't. The bible sure ain't God in my life.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Tell me how David accepted Christ, was baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues please. How on earth did David come to the Father through the Christ when the Christ was to be presented to the world 1000 years later?



Some of it is, some of it isn't. The bible sure ain't God in my life.

I will hint at 3 answers. David was under the law and the sacrifice of animals by the priest pushed the sins to the cross for another year.
Jesus commented at the Crosss on fulfilling the actual covering for sins of saints in the past.
Just read the Psalms and David repents. cleanse me of my iniquity....
The old covenant ended at calvary.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by coadie

I will hint at 3 answers. David was under the law and the sacrifice of animals by the priest pushed the sins to the cross for another year.
Jesus commented at the Crosss on fulfilling the actual covering for sins of saints in the past.
Just read the Psalms and David repents. cleanse me of my iniquity....
The old covenant ended at calvary.

David died without ever hearing of the Christ. You asked for a name and I gave it to you.

[seekerman]

Salvation has nothing to do with trinity or oneness.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Salvation has nothing to do with trinity or oneness.

Who said it did???

John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


You need a home bible study.

Hebrews 1
1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

The son was manifest to us after the birth of Jesus. God spoke to David thru men of God.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Salvation has nothing to do with trinity or oneness.

agree

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yes, I believe that the church, The Body of Christ, is made up of both trinity and oneness believers but isn't limited to only those folks. The body of Christ is also made up of folks who didn't even know there was a Christ.

Originally Posted by CC1

Unless People accept Christ as their saviour they are not part of the body of Christ. I would challenge you to provide a biblical basis for your statement I have bolded. I can provide you with plenty supporting my view.

The Christ was only revealed 2000 years ago and then to only a very very small population of the earth. Prior to that there is no mention of the Christ to the billions who lived during those pre-Christ Old Testament epochs nor a single verse of scripture of anyone calling upon the Christ as savior during those epochs.

While most Christians are Israel-centric, one should realize the population of the world was much larger than the relatively small portion of the middle east. There were billions of individuals prior to, and subsequent to, the introduction of the Christ 2000 years ago who lived and died never hearing anything of the theology of the Old and New Testaments which included those who did not live in the geographical area of the bible.

Those billions of individuals who lived never hearing of the Christ aren't just cast away to God's torture chamber. The redemption provided by the Christ is much more than redeeming a relatively few people who have the advantage of being born into some semblance of Christianity.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The Christ was only revealed 2000 years ago and then to only a very very small population of the earth. Prior to that there is no mention of the Christ to the billions who lived during those pre-Christ Old Testament epochs nor a single verse of scripture of anyone calling upon the Christ as savior during those epochs.

While most Christians are Israel-centric, one should realize the population of the world was much larger than the relatively small portion of the middle east. There were billions of individuals prior to, and subsequent to, the introduction of the Christ 2000 years ago who lived and died never hearing anything of the theology of the Old and New Testaments which included those who did not live in the geographical area of the bible.

Those billions of individuals who lived never hearing of the Christ aren't just cast away to God's torture chamber. The redemption provided by the Christ is much more than redeeming a relatively few people who have the advantage of being born into some semblance of Christianity.

The Jews were Gods chosen people before Christ. Since they found themselves unworthy, the gospel was taken to the Gentiles.
Our comand is to be soul winners.
You have been asked to provide scripture for your universal unitarian claims.
Name a person that was saved and never heard of Jesus.