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09-15-2010, 06:54 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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Monopoly of force?
Does what you describe above work for 800 million people? Or a village of 20?
So you will admit that law actually can help preserve freedom?
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It would work for everyone.
As long as that law is not state-sponsored.
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09-15-2010, 06:59 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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It would work for everyone.
As long as that law is not state-sponsored.
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Who makes sure these 20 villagers this idea would work for are keeping the law? Who makes sure the laws that are passed are done right?
When does the 20 villagers who become a "state" or when does it become "state-sponsored?"
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09-15-2010, 07:06 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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Who makes sure these 20 villagers this idea would work for are keeping the law? Who makes sure the laws that are passed are done right?
When does the 20 villagers who become a "state" or when does it become "state-sponsored?"
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I am free. You say I am not. Explain why I am not (maybe this will work since the whole definition thing would not)
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I will continue the answers tomorrow; see my previous post.
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09-15-2010, 10:09 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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I will continue the answers tomorrow; see my previous post. 
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Karl Marx developed popular concept of "social justice,"
You can't sell communism. Even socialism is a tough label. calling it social justice makes it tastier.
Maximilian is really into the oppressor vs the oppressed. Marx named the struggle Mein kampf.
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09-15-2010, 10:55 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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Karl Marx developed popular concept of "social justice,"
You can't sell communism. Even socialism is a tough label. calling it social justice makes it tastier.
Maximilian is really into the oppressor vs the oppressed. Marx named the struggle Mein kampf.
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Actually Thomas Aquinus actually coined the term first. Of course under the umbrella "social justice" are so many different sub-groups. But the original spokesperson for justice and love was Jesus Christ (Mt 5-7, Mt 25).
(oh... and that's funny, Hitler BLAMED Marxists in his book, Mein Kampf)
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09-16-2010, 05:37 AM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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Actually Thomas Aquinus actually coined the term first. Of course under the umbrella "social justice" are so many different sub-groups. But the original spokesperson for justice and love was Jesus Christ (Mt 5-7, Mt 25).
(oh... and that's funny, Hitler BLAMED Marxists in his book, Mein Kampf)
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Your catholic teachings may also indicate ST Thomas Aquinus didn't speak english.
He didn't mention social justice.
History of the Four Pillars
The practice of describing Green philosophy via Four Pillars began with the German Green Party in 1979-1980. At its founding meeting in 1984, the Green Committees of Correspondence in the United States expanded these into the Ten Key Values.[1]
For the Australian Greens, they are known as "Ecological sustainability", "Social and economic justice", "Peace and nonviolence", and "Grassroots democracy".
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09-16-2010, 02:02 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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Your catholic teachings may also indicate ST Thomas Aquinus didn't speak english.
He didn't mention social justice.
History of the Four Pillars
The practice of describing Green philosophy via Four Pillars began with the German Green Party in 1979-1980. At its founding meeting in 1984, the Green Committees of Correspondence in the United States expanded these into the Ten Key Values.[1]
For the Australian Greens, they are known as "Ecological sustainability", "Social and economic justice", "Peace and nonviolence", and "Grassroots democracy".
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So the fact that he said the words or the idea in latin means he didn't actually mention social justice????
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09-17-2010, 10:48 AM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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I will continue the answers tomorrow; see my previous post. 
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Social justice update
Gay activists ask St. Louis Cardinals for Kiss Cam on them
The Associated Press
More News
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that at least 200 gays and lesbians will be at Busch Stadium on Saturday as part of an "Out at the Ballpark" promotion organized by the nonprofit group St. Louis Pride.
The request to the Cardinals was spurred by a Kiss Cam incident at Sunday's St. Louis Rams game. The camera zeroed in on two men dressed in jerseys of the opposing team, the Arizona Cardinals. The crowd laughed, then booed when the men tried to shoo away the camera.
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/09/16...#ixzz0zo2emus2
Lesbians kiss at Butch stadium?
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09-17-2010, 11:14 AM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
Seems coadie is having an inability to distinguish the biblical call for justice from the voting bloc of people he hates and disdains. What is this called... Psych 101 was too long ago.
Social justice = kissing lesbians? lol
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09-17-2010, 12:44 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem
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Seems coadie is having an inability to distinguish the biblical call for justice from the voting bloc of people he hates and disdains. What is this called... Psych 101 was too long ago.
Social justice = kissing lesbians? lol 
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This is from St thomas Aquinas.
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There are, then, four Cardinal Virtues, in the four principal powers used in moral actions: Prudence in the practical intellect, Justice in the rational appetite (will), Fortitude (Courage) in the irascible appetite, and Temperance in the concupiscible appetite. ( ST I-II, 61, 2)
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It doesn't say SOCIAL justice. it just says justice.
Don't put words in there that are not in there.
Justice refers to civil laws.
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