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10-03-2010, 05:48 PM
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How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Ghost?
Is this biblical? Can one be filled and lose it? Is not Christ the chief bishop of our souls? Our we not in His Hands? Is it really biblical to seek tongues and not the Holy Spirit?
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
I've asked that question to T.R. O'Daniel (now head of Great Lakes Bible College, MI), Dr. David Norris (Urshan School) and Talmage French (was head of WPF bible college program). Each has a Masters or Dr. in Ministry/Theology/Education.
Got 3 totally different qualified/softball answers.
Those are 3 of the best among us who didn't fully answer it for me when they taught together at IBC when I was there.
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10-03-2010, 09:54 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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I've asked that question to T.R. O'Daniel (now head of Great Lakes Bible College, MI), Dr. David Norris (Urshan School) and Talmage French (was head of WPF bible college program). Each has a Masters or Dr. in Ministry/Theology/Education.
Got 3 totally different qualified/softball answers.
Those are 3 of the best among us who didn't fully answer it for me when they taught together at IBC when I was there.
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Try contacting Daniel Segraves. I think you will find his answer very interesting.  I don't want to quote him for fear of misquoting - but I don't think he will "softball" your answer.
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10-03-2010, 10:09 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Try contacting Daniel Segraves. I think you will find his answer very interesting. I don't want to quote him for fear of misquoting - but I don't think he will "softball" your answer. |
Give me the readers digest version.
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10-03-2010, 10:17 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Give me the readers digest version.
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I really am afraid to just jump in and say what I remember him teaching. There are too many on this forum that would possibly take what I said and twist it. Give me a bit of time to frame my thoughts. It may be a few days before I can get back to you, my schedule is rather hectic right now.
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10-03-2010, 05:58 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
I don't understand how one can be re-born again? I also don't understand the mindset that one can lose the gift when the scripture plainly tells us they are given without repentance.
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10-03-2010, 06:08 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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I don't understand how one can be re-born again? I also don't understand the mindset that one can lose the gift when the scripture plainly tells us they are given without repentance.
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Once again, welcome to hyper-Armenian Pentecostal Theology. We are John Wesleys red-headed step-children soteriologically.
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10-03-2010, 06:11 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Once again, welcome to hyper-Armenian Pentecostal Theology. We are John Wesleys red-headed step-children soteriologically.
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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I don't understand how one can be re-born again? I also don't understand the mindset that one can lose the gift when the scripture plainly tells us they are given without repentance.
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Romans 8 makes it clear that those who have the Holy Spirit are joint heirs with Christ. Can an unbeliever be a joint heir with Christ? God forbid!
Therefore, the gift of the Holy Spirit is a gift for believers. So, when you cease to be a believer you must also cease to have the Holy Spirit (else an unbeliever would be a joint heir with Christ). However, a person that has ceased to be a believer can begin to believe again. In such a case he can become filled with the Holy Spirit once again. Is this what you are calling being re-born again? If so what don't you understand about it?
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10-03-2010, 07:07 PM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Romans 8 makes it clear that those who have the Holy Spirit are joint heirs with Christ. Can an unbeliever be a joint heir with Christ? God forbid!
Therefore, the gift of the Holy Spirit is a gift for believers. So, when you cease to be a believer you must also cease to have the Holy Spirit (else an unbeliever would be a joint heir with Christ). However, a person that has ceased to be a believer can begin to believe again. In such a case he can become filled with the Holy Spirit once again. Is this what you are calling being re-born again? If so what don't you understand about it?
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So what you are saying is every time we believe or disbelieve or re-believe, we are born again again...stupid. 
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