Goss speaking @ UPCI conference

committed · #1 10-07-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I wonder if this is the same drama they did at the Azusa 100 year celebration? We went to the UPC thing, and it was actually excellent. The power of God moved in during the drama and they didn't even get to finish; people were running to the altars to get the Holy Ghost.

I saw the one at the Azusa celebration. It was powerful! This one was different - and was good to those not watching for 'flaws' in it. We can rejoice that God did move and there was a great outpouring at the turn of the century.

Jason B · #2 10-07-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by committed

I saw the one at the Azusa celebration. It was powerful! This one was different - and was good to those not watching for 'flaws' in it. We can rejoice that God did move and there was a great outpouring at the turn of the century.

"flaws"? Flaws could be perhaps a geographical error, or have a quote attributed to someone who didn't say it.

What the UPC play basically did was the equivalent of making Martin Luther an Acts 2:38 preacher. They reframed history to fit their specific doctrine.

Apocrypha · #3 10-08-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by committed

I saw the one at the Azusa celebration. It was powerful! This one was different - and was good to those not watching for 'flaws' in it. We can rejoice that God did move and there was a great outpouring at the turn of the century.

Re-writing history and presenting it to over 10,000 folks, many of whom are ministers going back to talk about it in their home churches... thats evil.

Why is it "OK" to present falsehoods and say its a higher truth if you look beyond its flaws? How can we progress if we cannot look at what our elders did and grow beyond them? We cannonize them and don't try to learn the lessons of their failures and try be better.

Jason B · #4 10-08-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

We cannonize them and don't try to learn the lessons of their failures and try be better.

Or even stranger, we cannonie them for their beliefs, but don't ascribe to their beliefs ourselves. Thus, we redefine their beliefs and identify with them.

This reminds me of Jesus rebuking the pharisees for decorating the tombs of the prophets and lamenting their deaths at the hands of their fathers, saying "we wouldn't have done this!", and at the same time in their own day they crucified the Son of God.