Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?

Dedicated Mind · #1 10-23-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Is it an infractible offense if I call DedicatedMind a "Hypocrite"? I won't call him that until I know for sure.

So DedMind, YOU proclaim that DA is in FALSE DOCTRINE and THEN say that I want to bludgeon to death anyone who doesn't agree with me"?????????

ARE YOU SERIOUS??? How do you say that with a straight face?

"For wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself, for thou that judgest doest the same things."

NOW, you're the one putting words in my mouth saying DA is going to hell and so forth. I never said that easy Grace is a damnable heresey or that DA was lost for preaching it, you did. You're the one trying to paint me into a corner and bludgeon me to death. Do you believe that water/spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine? How do you characterize their teachings?

notofworks · #2 10-23-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

NOW, you're the one putting words in my mouth saying DA is going to hell and so forth. I never said that easy Grace is a damnable heresey or that DA was lost for preaching it, you did. You're the one trying to paint me into a corner and bludgeon me to death. Do you believe that water/spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine? How do you characterize their teachings?

No, DedMind, YOU are putting words in MY mouth. I never said that you said it was a damnable heresy or that DA was lost for preaching it. This is ridiculous. You're arguing against things I haven't even said. Sigh.

You said he's in false doctrine. I'm challenging you on that because you THEN said you think he's saved, and I'm challenging you to explain how a false doctrine can save!

I just typed that at 485 wpm....my irritation level has almost maxed out.

Dedicated Mind · #3 10-23-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

No, DedMind, YOU are putting words in MY mouth. I never said that you said it was a damnable heresy or that DA was lost for preaching it. This is ridiculous. You're arguing against things I haven't even said. Sigh.

You said he's in false doctrine. I'm challenging you on that because you THEN said you think he's saved, and I'm challenging you to explain how a false doctrine can save!

I just typed that at 485 wpm....my irritation level has almost maxed out.

Easy, Because DA was raised in the truth and was born again according to water/spirit teaching. So I believe he is saved. He has changed his teaching and now mocks water/spirit teaching. I said he is on a slippery slope, but I am not judging his salvation. I don't believe he is teaching the complete truth, which is false doctrine. Anwer my question. Do you believe that water/spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine?

Jeffrey · #4 10-23-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Easy, Because DA was raised in the truth and was born again according to water/spirit teaching. So I believe he is saved. He has changed his teaching and now mocks water/spirit teaching. I said he is on a slippery slope, but I am not judging his salvation. I don't believe he is teaching the complete truth, which is false doctrine. Anwer my question. Do you believe that water/spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine?

So, for the record, if DA had no Pentecostal affiliation, you believe he is lost for eternity, correct?

Do you believe in OSAS? Hasn't DA turned his back on what you dub as "the Gospel?"

What does scripture say about false doctrine that has to do with Gospel issues? Are they "slippery slopes" or damnable heresies?

notofworks · #5 10-23-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

So, for the record, if DA had no Pentecostal affiliation, you believe he is lost for eternity, correct?

Do you believe in OSAS? Hasn't DA turned his back on what you dub as "the Gospel?"

What does scripture say about false doctrine that has to do with Gospel issues? Are they "slippery slopes" or damnable heresies?

Good grief, I was so irritated, I didn't even address that part of the lunacy. It sounds like he's saying that once you've done the 3-steps, you can teach whatever the heck you want to and you're fine.

Jeffrey, would you be interested in a copy of WatchTower? I teach that now. But hey, we're ok. We spoke in tongues.

Jeffrey · #6 10-23-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Good grief, I was so irritated, I didn't even address that part of the lunacy. It sounds like he's saying that once you've done the 3-steps, you can teach whatever the heck you want to and you're fine.

Jeffrey, would you be interested in a copy of WatchTower? I teach that now. But hey, we're ok. We spoke in tongues.

notofworks · #7 10-23-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Easy, Because DA was raised in the truth and was born again according to water/spirit teaching. So I believe he is saved. He has changed his teaching and now mocks water/spirit teaching. I said he is on a slippery slope, but I am not judging his salvation. I don't believe he is teaching the complete truth, which is false doctrine. Anwer my question. Do you believe that water/spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine?

But you said that DA is......

....you know, this is goofy. I'm just typing the same things over and over again....

....you said that DA is teaching others something short of the whole gospel. Since the bible is clear about false teachers.....Jeffrey gave you all the verses and they're VERY clear....how can DA be saved if he's leader others to condemnation? You can't play both sides of the fence, DedMind.

No, I do not believe that Water/Spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine. I, myself, am a Water/Spirit doctrine preacher. In fact, just about any preacher that I know of in any denomination is a Water/Spirit preacher.

Now, how I see "Water/Spirit" is probably far different than you see it.

And you're flat out wrong with what you have repeatedly JUDGED DA for doing...he does NOT mock the water/spirit doctrine. He disagrees with your view of it, for sure, but he doesn't mocked.

I just made it to 544wpm on that one. My Mac is gonna blow up.

Azzan · #8 10-23-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

But you said that DA is......

....you know, this is goofy. I'm just typing the same things over and over again....

....you said that DA is teaching others something short of the whole gospel. Since the bible is clear about false teachers.....Jeffrey gave you all the verses and they're VERY clear....how can DA be saved if he's leader others to condemnation? You can't play both sides of the fence, DedMind.

No, I do not believe that Water/Spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine. I, myself, am a Water/Spirit doctrine preacher. In fact, just about any preacher that I know of in any denomination is a Water/Spirit preacher.

Now, how I see "Water/Spirit" is probably far different than you see it.

And you're flat out wrong with what you have repeatedly JUDGED DA for doing...he does NOT mock the water/spirit doctrine. He disagrees with your view of it, for sure, but he doesn't mocked.

I just made it to 544wpm on that one. My Mac is gonna blow up.

Ohhhhh... so you're a Mac user! That explains a lot!

Jeffrey · #9 10-23-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

No, DedMind, YOU are putting words in MY mouth. I never said that you said it was a damnable heresy or that DA was lost for preaching it. This is ridiculous. You're arguing against things I haven't even said. Sigh.

You said he's in false doctrine. I'm challenging you on that because you THEN said you think he's saved, and I'm challenging you to explain how a false doctrine can save!

I just typed that at 485 wpm....my irritation level has almost maxed out.

For the record, I believe we all have a little bit of "heresy" -- meaning teachings not 100% consistent with the early church. It's which teachings do we make issue of as taking to task. And I think anything that adds to the Gospel (steps, how-to-be-saved manuals, etc) is definitely heresy. I obviously don't think all who believe this are unsaved, but I am nervous for those who are the leaders pushing these theologies. With my theology, I can look back and say there's hope for those who believe in Jesus as LORD and don't perfectly understand grace. However, from those who feel I must jump through 3 hoops to merit salvation, I'm not sure how they could possibly say the same thing for me.

Jeffrey · #10 10-23-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

NOW, you're the one putting words in my mouth saying DA is going to hell and so forth. I never said that easy Grace is a damnable heresey or that DA was lost for preaching it, you did. You're the one trying to paint me into a corner and bludgeon me to death. Do you believe that water/spirit preachers are preaching false doctrine? How do you characterize their teachings?

What is "easy Grace", DM?

Can a person be saved the way DA teaches: Yes or No?