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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?
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So baptism is not a part of salvation.
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I don't know that I would say that. It is a part of ceremonial induction into the body of Christ. We are baptized INTO Christ. If someone rejects baptism it certainly calls into question the conversion experience.
I don't know that I would want much separation betwixt the two. Those who believe should be baptized, period.
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10-24-2010, 09:25 PM
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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?
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I don't know that I would say that. It is a part of ceremonial induction into the body of Christ. We are baptized INTO Christ. If someone rejects baptism it certainly calls into question the conversion experience.
I don't know that I would want much separation betwixt the two. Those who believe should be baptized, period.
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It is a response to salvation, not a part of salvation.
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10-24-2010, 09:30 PM
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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?
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It is a response to salvation, not a part of salvation.
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Yes. Believers get baptized. One does not get baptized in order to become a believer. Nevertheless, I can't think of any good reason to not be baptized immediately and in conjunction with conversion.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-24-2010, 09:34 PM
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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?
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Yes. Believers get baptized. One does not get baptized in order to become a believer. Nevertheless, I can't think of any good reason to not be baptized immediately and in conjunction with conversion.
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I'll be glad to pass on to you the baptism study guide I wrote for our church. You can read it and finally understand it all! 
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10-24-2010, 09:40 PM
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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?
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I'll be glad to pass on to you the baptism study guide I wrote for our church. You can read it and finally understand it all! |
I don't know that I have ever struggled with this much, but thanks anyway.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-24-2010, 09:41 PM
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Re: NOW, When Is Someone Saved?
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I don't know that I have ever struggled with this much, but thanks anyway.
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But you're not in complete agreement with me, therefore, you struggle! 
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