How the TSA shakes down a fully armed squad

Ferd · #1 11-19-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie

So then my point that driving may indeed be a privilage just like flying, but my car can't be searched without probable cause, is valid at least to some extent?

What then is the probabe cause for TSA to scan and do pat down searches?
Shouldn't we be aware of what those are?

we are back to Aquila's argument that I agree with... to a point.

the better analogy is with Miranda.

You have certain rights extended by the constituion. However, you can choose to surrender those rights volentarily.

With flying, you surrender your right not to be searched as a term of use.

Where i have an issue is that TSA as a government agency should have stricter standards for search than a private company has....

further my issue (which of course is the one I find to be more important,) is we are talking about inneffective and ineffecient methods when there are far better options.

Aquila · #2 11-19-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

we are back to Aquila's argument that I agree with... to a point.

the better analogy is with Miranda.

You have certain rights extended by the constituion. However, you can choose to surrender those rights volentarily.

With flying, you surrender your right not to be searched as a term of use.

Where i have an issue is that TSA as a government agency should have stricter standards for search than a private company has....

further my issue (which of course is the one I find to be more important,) is we are talking about inneffective and ineffecient methods when there are far better options.

I stood at checkpoint for about 13 minutes a little bit ago. I saw dozens of passengers going through screening. Saw one pat down. They seemed to be cordially talking. The screener cleared the man and he was on his way to board a safe flight. I saw no issues. A lot of this stuff is just hype. If you consider how many THOUSANDS are going through airport screening right now and compare the handful of complaints... you'll realize that we're just dealing with a moody minority that only wants 15 minutes of fame.

coadie · #3 11-19-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I stood at checkpoint for about 13 minutes a little bit ago. I saw dozens of passengers going through screening. Saw one pat down. They seemed to be cordially talking. The screener cleared the man and he was on his way to board a safe flight. I saw no issues. A lot of this stuff is just hype. If you consider how many THOUSANDS are going through airport screening right now and compare the handful of complaints... you'll realize that we're just dealing with a moody minority that only wants 15 minutes of fame.

You are blogging from work. Then you knock the passengers as "moody minority"

The airlines really do work hard to provide a safe and comfortible trip.

Then the trashy disrespectful gubment workers mock "moody minority" passengers and hurt the trip experience.

The gubment workers are not trained in customer service.

sandie · #4 11-19-2010, 10:16 AM

I wonder how long before this really starts hurting the airline industry?

Aquila · #5 11-19-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

You are blogging from work. Then you knock the passengers as "moody minority"

The airlines really do work hard to provide a safe and comfortible trip.

Then the trashy disrespectful gubment workers mock "moody minority" passengers and hurt the trip experience.

The gubment workers are not trained in customer service.

Coadie, I'm multi-tasking. Hey, are you going to deliver son? lol

onefaith2 · #6 11-19-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I stood at checkpoint for about 13 minutes a little bit ago. I saw dozens of passengers going through screening. Saw one pat down. They seemed to be cordially talking. The screener cleared the man and he was on his way to board a safe flight. I saw no issues. A lot of this stuff is just hype. If you consider how many THOUSANDS are going through airport screening right now and compare the handful of complaints... you'll realize that we're just dealing with a moody minority that only wants 15 minutes of fame.

This type of thing should not happen period, even if the moody throw a scene. If lawmen aren't allowed to touch that particular area, neither should these guys. In my opinion there has got to be strict regulations on these things to prevent this even happening once.

Aquila · #7 11-19-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2

This type of thing should not happen period, even if the moody throw a scene. If lawmen aren't allowed to touch that particular area, neither should these guys. In my opinion there has got to be strict regulations on these things to prevent this even happening once.

What do you believe we should do with a person who refuses to pass through a screening device and refuses a pat down?