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Old 11-23-2010, 01:36 PM
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Nobody responded, but I already stated Jesus had a seamless robe with was COSTLY ARRAY in that day.

Clarke said:
"the high priest had a long robe of a blue color, which hung down to the feet, and was put over all the rest." It is likely that this was the same with that upper garment which the soldiers divided among them, it being probably of a costly stuff. I may just add here, that I knew a woman who knit all kinds of clothes, even to the sleeves and button holes, without a seam; and have seen some of the garments which she made; that the thing is possible I have the fullest proof.
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Nobody responded, but I already stated Jesus had a seamless robe with was COSTLY ARRAY in that day.
How much did it cost relatively to other garments?
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:57 PM
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How much did it cost relatively to other garments?
Costly enough for Clarke to say it was "costly".

Clarke said:
"the high priest had a long robe of a blue color, which hung down to the feet, and was put over all the rest." It is likely that this was the same with that upper garment which the soldiers divided among them, it being probably of a costly stuff. I may just add here, that I knew a woman who knit all kinds of clothes, even to the sleeves and button holes, without a seam; and have seen some of the garments which she made; that the thing is possible I have the fullest proof.
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Costly enough for Clarke to say it was "costly".

Clarke said:
"the high priest had a long robe of a blue color, which hung down to the feet, and was put over all the rest." It is likely that this was the same with that upper garment which the soldiers divided among them, it being probably of a costly stuff. I may just add here, that I knew a woman who knit all kinds of clothes, even to the sleeves and button holes, without a seam; and have seen some of the garments which she made; that the thing is possible I have the fullest proof.
probably costly.. the garment of Jesus would have been costly anyway. Can you imagine how much people would have given to have the garment of the one who healed them?
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:10 PM
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probably costly.. the garment of Jesus would have been costly anyway. Can you imagine how much people would have given to have the garment of the one who healed them?
You are really grasping. I have heard it preached all my life that the seamless garment was an expensive article of clothing. And common sense is what makes it "probably". Imagine the skill required to make it, to the extent that Clarke has to say it can be proved that ancients were able to do this. In other words, some thought it was too hard to make for people of that time. But to say these people crucifying the Lord wanted it since it was worn by one who healed people is contradictory! They would not have been fighting for his robe, but fighting for Him to be taken off the cross if they really believed He healed people.

It just goes to show how much effort people take to uphold a tradition. Gambling for his robe meant it was expensive.
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You are really grasping. I have heard it preached all my life that the seamless garment was an expensive article of clothing. And common sense is what makes it "probably". Imagine the skill required to make it, to the extent that Clarke has to say it can be proved that ancients were able to do this. In other words, some thought it was too hard to make for people of that time. But to say these people crucifying the Lord wanted it since it was worn by one who healed people is contradictory! They would not have been fighting for his robe, but fighting for Him to be taken off the cross if they really believed He healed people.

It just goes to show how much effort people take to uphold a tradition. Gambling for his robe meant it was expensive.
I'm not trying to hold any tradition. You said Clarke agrees it was expensive and I said he stated probably was expensive. How does this apply to Paul and Peter's argument about women?
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I'm not trying to hold any tradition. You said Clarke agrees it was expensive and I said he stated probably was expensive. How does this apply to Paul and Peter's argument about women?
Paul referred to costly array. Yet Jesus wore it. So Paul did not mean do not wear expensive clothes. Again, the context says we are not to think that shows how Christian we are.
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In fact he wore a seamless robe, not a sackcloth with a rope tied around His waist. The seamless robe was a very expensive garment of the day. In fact, it was so valuable that even the Roman soldiers were wagering for it at the foot of the Cross. Whether the robe was a gift or He bought it doesn't matter. The robe was His, He owned it.
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Jesus wore a seamless robe, which was a very costly garment (John 19: 23-24), so costly that the soldiers who were crucifying Him chose to gamble for it rather than to divide it between them, which was their usual custom.
http://www.james-dave.com/conservlib2.html
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[QUOTE=mfblume;992303][indent]In fact he wore a seamless robe, not a sackcloth with a rope tied around His waist. The seamless robe was a very expensive garment of the day. In fact, it was so valuable that even the Roman soldiers were wagering for it at the foot of the Cross. Whether the robe was a gift or He bought it doesn't matter. The robe was His, He owned it.

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are you having fun yet? Some things have to be shown by God, My son inlaw and I used to go round and round about this same subject for two years. I finaly listened to my wife and quite. I sent up one prayer to God, I said "if what you have shown me is truth show my son inlaw. Two years later the brought the subject up, this time they were open hearted and received the word in understanding.

Today they have a true Christian character, and have grown in leaps and bounds in spiritual things far beyond anything they obtained in the years they were stuck in their traditions.
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