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Old 11-24-2010, 02:37 PM
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Re: Homosexuality ... How do the "Advocates" deal.

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Disclaimer... Knowing there are some on this forum who advocate and even participate in the behaviour of homosexuality, I desire to start off the right way. I am coming from a viewpoint that is shared by the majority of America. If I get some of the wording wrong I do not mean this as a slam against anyone so, please, no offense intended. I start this thread in seriousness.

How do those who advocate homosexuality deal with the verse...

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

If in a standard home,(heterosexual) the head of that woman is the man, how does a home with two men, (homosexual) work? Now there are two heads.

In a home with two women, (Lesbians) now there is no head.

So we have either a home with two heads or a headless home.

With any situations regarding homosexuality that I have ever dealt with there is always a dominant partner and a passive partner. Yet,... I notice that there is always a strife in these situations.

While dealing recently with two young ladies involved in a situation, I observed that there was always a struggle between the two as to who was going to be the "head". It seemed to me that both were trying to fulfill a place of headship that was not theirs and because of their situation they were always in a conflict.

Their fights in the apartment were something to hear about. Very very violent. Obviously their living together relationship did not last long. This is a common problem that happens with many of these situations.I realize that heterosexual couples also have their fights. I am not saying that just by having a heterosexual relationship will do away with the fighting. It just seems to me that some of the tension that I have observed in the homosexual pairs that I have dealt with, either professionally or even on the job, stems from the problem of headship or lack of it.

What say some on this forum.

Again, I am not slamming anyone, I am asking a question that I feel has merit.
It seems the "advocates" are striving to say they see no violence so there is none. Not only is there plenty, It is difficult to deal with.

If these relationships are of a sex addiction and selfish nature, the loss of a power struggle and granting of authority just can't happen.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:42 PM
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Re: Homosexuality ... How do the "Advocates" deal.

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It seems the "advocates" are striving to say they see no violence so there is none. Not only is there plenty, It is difficult to deal with.

If these relationships are of a sex addiction and selfish nature, the loss of a power struggle and granting of authority just can't happen.
No, it SEEMS all we've seen are anecdotes. Your drive-by copy/pastes haven't settled anything. And if there is a higher proclivity to violence, the factors associated are certainly more complex than to simply attribute it to some ethereal concept as headship.

Many of us know and are friends with homosexuals where we haven't seen this to be the case. So even if the numbers are higher, they aren't certainly high enough to get beside yourself with a new theory.

And who are the "advocates" that you are talking about? TJJJ already clarified he is referring to those on this board who excuse homosexuality as sin. None of them have chimed in thus far.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:50 PM
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Re: Homosexuality ... How do the "Advocates" deal.

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It seems the "advocates" are striving to say they see no violence so there is none. Not only is there plenty, It is difficult to deal with.

If these relationships are of a sex addiction and selfish nature, the loss of a power struggle and granting of authority just can't happen.
That is not what I said. This is what I said:

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Based on my personal observation, on a general scale, homosexual couples manage mutually. I've seen relationships that have tension in them and I've seen relationships that didn't have tension. The ones who did have tension were a poor match, in my opinion, for any number of reasons: personality clashes, different value systems, etc.

I've not personally witnessed any abuse but I'm not denying it's not there.
Why do you always twist people's words?
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:57 PM
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That is not what I said. This is what I said:



Why do you always twist people's words?
He can't help it.
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Old 11-24-2010, 03:02 PM
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Re: Homosexuality ... How do the "Advocates" deal.

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That is not what I said. This is what I said:



Why do you always twist people's words?
I will be glad to clarify. I was actually quotting TJJ if you will check. Earlier this link was posted which also denies any abuse of a greater extent than heterosexual couples.

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Domestic violence in the GLBT community is a serious issue. The rates of domestic violence in same-gender relationships is roughly the same as domestic violence against heterosexual women (25%).
http://www.lambda.org/DV_background.htm

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A Queer individual who is being battered must overcome homophobia and denial of the issue of battering.
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