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Old 11-27-2010, 08:17 AM
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Re: Very Interesting From The Apostolic News

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sure would like to met him...maybe it can be traced let´s wait and see...I read the article.
If his recent interview is any indication of how he montages his information ... then don't stay up too late waiting for it ...

It would NOT surprise me, if Boora's scholarship in his new baptism book, promoted by the Enseyites, is wrought with cropped misquotations and faulty conclusions ... if this recent interview is any indication of the patchwork scholarship that besets Apostolica :

Boora in his August 2010 interview with Paul Baumeister, a leading editor of the Apostolic News -
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Q: Can you give an example of your research and scholarship?

A: Yes, for example, The New Testament of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in The Original Greek[1] 1860 A.D., notes the following:
“He that is baptized in the Name of Christ, is baptized in the Name of the Holy Trinity: for the Father and the Holy Spirit are inseparable from the Son. One person of the Holy Trinity does not exclude another but includes it…To be baptized in the Name of Jesus, is to be baptized in the Name of the Triune God, which could not be, unless Jesus Christ were God.”[2]

This foregoing quote recognizes the validity of baptism in the name of Jesus, since the author notes that Jesus is God and in His name is baptism invoked and performed, since in His name (Jesus) includes Father and Holy Ghost, therefore the validity of baptism in the name of Jesus is evident from the above quote. The quote also notes that during that period of time baptism in the name of Jesus flourished, hence the reference to it.
Well let's look at the entire quote by Christopher Wadsworth ... mis-attributed to a Charles Wodsworth by the author ... and perhaps Boora himself:



Notice parts conspicuously missing or cropped in quote 1 by Boora in comparison .... to the actual Wodsworth quote ... while omitting unfavorable language and context?

This Augustine sourced quote in its totality no doubt affirms Wodsworth belief in three persons in the Godhead and that being in baptized in the name of Christ is in effect being baptized in the Trinity but in no way is supporting a historical view affirming the validity of Jesus name baptism.

Nor does it express necessary invocation .... nor does it show that Jesus name baptism flourished during that time or any time?

Notice Wodsworth, a paedobaptist not supporting immersion ... later in his commentary???


Here Wodsworth sources another piece authored by Augustine where he affirms baptism in the Trinity used by the 12 Apostles and their successors ... and a reference to the belief that they would be baptized or let down three times (page 52)




Here Wodsworth affirms the belief of a Triune baptism conferring grace (page 92):



I am tempted to buy this Ensey-sponsored book ... just to see what other adulterations are present. I know Pelathais has read some of his work already.

If Boora can use Wodsworth as part of a montage of quotes to conclude:

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"Therefore, the United Kingdom was home to baptism in the name of Jesus for centuries."
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Then color me an atheist and a theological doctor myself.

Source: The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ: in the ..., Volume 2 By Christopher Wordsworth

http://books.google.com/books?id=RuI...rinity&f=false
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:59 PM
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Re: Very Interesting From The Apostolic News

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If his recent interview is any indication of how he montages his information ... then don't stay up too late waiting for it ...

It would NOT surprise me, if Boora's scholarship in his new baptism book, promoted by the Enseyites, is wrought with cropped misquotations and faulty conclusions ... if this recent interview is any indication of the patchwork scholarship that besets Apostolica :

Boora in his August 2010 interview with Paul Baumeister, a leading editor of the Apostolic News -
Quote:


Well let's look at the entire quote by Christopher Wadsworth ... mis-attributed to a Charles Wodsworth by the author ... and perhaps Boora himself:



Notice parts conspicuously missing or cropped in quote 1 by Boora in comparison .... to the actual Wodsworth quote ... while omitting unfavorable language and context?

This Augustine sourced quote in its totality no doubt affirms Wodsworth belief in three persons in the Godhead and that being in baptized in the name of Christ is in effect being baptized in the Trinity but in no way is supporting a historical view affirming the validity of Jesus name baptism.

Nor does it express necessary invocation .... nor does it show that Jesus name baptism flourished during that time or any time?

Notice Wodsworth, a paedobaptist not supporting immersion ... later in his commentary???


Here Wodsworth sources another piece authored by Augustine where he affirms baptism in the Trinity used by the 12 Apostles and their successors ... and a reference to the belief that they would be baptized or let down three times (page 52)




Here Wodsworth affirms the belief of a Triune baptism conferring grace (page 92):



I am tempted to buy this Ensey-sponsored book ... just to see what other adulterations are present. I know Pelathais has read some of his work already.

If Boora can use Wodsworth as part of a montage of quotes to conclude:

....

Then color me an atheist and a theological doctor myself.

Source: The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ: in the ..., Volume 2 By Christopher Wordsworth

http://books.google.com/books?id=RuI...rinity&f=false
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:58 AM
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Why do they lie like this? Do they not know that their lies will be discovered??? Or do they know that there are those who believe what is spoon fed to them from "Apostolic" leaders regardless of the facts? I actually had a man tell me, "I don't care what the FACTS are, I'm obeying my pastor!" Well... that's one way to be led into the ditch.
That is why they start home churches . They can obey their pastor.
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