The symposium I mentioned had WC as a respondent to another paper, as I recall. He was then taking questions, standing at his seat at a table rather than the podium. He stood to respond to a number of questions. The general mood of the audience seemed to one of skepticism toward the claims that he had made in an earlier paper and also toward some statements that he had made then.
J.L. Hall was moderating the Q&A and asking some questions himself.
WC finally offered a plea about "how the RCC had destroyed so much" [of the writings of the alleged "Oneness" people] and how the RCC falsely accused "Oneness people" of being Arians, Dualists and etc. It was because of this alleged condition of the historical record that he maintained that he was free to "extrapolate" from the historical record and declare groups like the Manicheans and others were actually "Oneness."
The facts of the historical record are actually rather plain, given the fact that we are dealing with ancient history here. And, there was a tendency for some ancient writers to misrepresent the views of their antagonists (just like the modern forum world). Given all of that, there still has never been any example of a "20th Century Oneness Apostolic" in existence at any time from about 200 or 225 A.D. through about 1900 A.D.
None. No one. No evidence, nobody any where in that time period.
I think Kal has the same problem ... he can try to prove baptism with the right formula being used ... but even his examples of Anglican paedobaptists baptizing primarily babies by sprinkling in the name of Christ (not Gee-zuz) falls considerably short of the "Apostolic" message.
I think Kal has the same problem ... he can try to prove baptism with the right formula being used ... but even his examples of Anglican paedobaptists baptizing primarily babies by sprinkling in the name of Christ (not Gee-zuz) falls considerably short of the "Apostolic" message.
Yes. There were many elements of the "Three Step" throughout history but there is not a single shred of evidence that anyone practiced the "full package" until the 20th Century.
This of course presents no problem at all for those who believe that Jesus Christ Himself is the Savior. Those who demand formula or rituals being done in just the right manner will have some problems. Formulas and rituals don't save. Jesus saves.
Yes. There were many elements of the "Three Step" throughout history but there is not a single shred of evidence that anyone practiced the "full package" until the 20th Century.
This of course presents no problem at all for those who believe that Jesus Christ Himself is the Savior. Those who demand formula or rituals being done in just the right manner will have some problems. Formulas and rituals don't save. Jesus saves.
How many languages do you read? Where are all the big Oneness Seminaries with their original works libraries? You aren't famous for providing evidence.
How many languages do you read? Where are all the big Oneness Seminaries with their original works libraries? You aren't famous for providing evidence.
How many Looney Tunes cartoons have you watched? Where all the big characters animals? You aren't famous for making sense.
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This is your busy season. Is business slow? I suspect in your famous law practice you relate to cartoon characters.
Grow up buddy!!
What season is it for you? We can't figure out if you practice law, philosophy, social science, in medicine or work fast food. Could you clear that up for us?
What season is it for you? We can't figure out if you practice law, philosophy, social science, in medicine or work fast food. Could you clear that up for us?
...i really dont want to dog pile, but I saw something yesterday about working with some company that builds nuclear power plants...
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A challenge like this coming from someone who has failed to be competent in his own native language? Pathetic.
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Where are all the big Oneness Seminaries with their original works libraries?
There are none, though I suppose Urshan Grad School continues to compile a library as we speak. But then again, this lack really makes my point and not yours.
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You aren't famous for providing evidence.
My statement was that there is NO EVIDENCE TO PROVIDE when it comes to the alleged "continuous line" of "Acts 2:38 Apostolic believers."
There is no evidence coco. None. Zip. Nada. Nothing. There is only the imagination of cranks like yourself which I have come to find rather disappointing.
A challenge like this coming from someone who has failed to be competent in his own native language? Pathetic.
Coadie's first language is German, I believe ... and his secretary does most of his transcribing with Ferd's spell checker option... if previous posts posited are to be believed.
But, Coadie remains a sidebar in this tale of deceit.
Coadie's first language is German, I believe ... and his secretary does most of his transcribing with Ferd's spell checker option... if previous posts posited are to be believed.
But, Coadie remains a sidebar in this tale of deceit.
He did say once that his German-Dutch Amish parents had provided him with a secretary when he was still a child. Thus, he never developed the computer keyboard skills that the Amish are otherwise known for.
coadie is also fluent in six languages and has a post graduate degree from an Ivy League school. He is an internationally known geneticist when he isn't watching Glenn Beck on the HDTV in the "office across the hall" from his fabulously successful brokerage house.
Like I said before, Oneness Pentecostalism is overrun with frauds and fakes.
... I forgot to mention: coadie is also a well known petroleum geologist who has found many oil fields using a literal interpretation of Genesis 10:25.
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