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12-01-2010, 09:30 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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I'll never forget visiting a friend of our family's who had been a very strong pastor and personality. He was shriveled up in a wheelchair, eyepatch, no vocabulary, no control over saliva.....it's been 25 years and that imagery won't go away. He was only in his 50's but the stroke had instantly taken everything from him. Even the most positive of thinkers would struggle with this. I've never been a "Why God?" type of guy, but remembering those moments with him gets me pretty close to asking.
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My daughter was just asking me, this morning, what was so great about Job getting everything back when he lost his children. "You can't replace your children." She wanted to know why God would do that to someone. That's a "Why God?" question for you! I have no idea.
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12-01-2010, 09:36 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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My daughter was just asking me, this morning, what was so great about Job getting everything back when he lost his children. "You can't replace your children." She wanted to know why God would do that to someone. That's a "Why God?" question for you! I have no idea.
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Job is often a touchy subject for me. God put up Job in a bet with the devil? Killed his kids and having twice as many kids afterwards was supposed to be a consolation prize? I often side with the Job-parable-theorists...maybe just because I have personal issues with the story.
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12-01-2010, 09:39 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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Job is often a touchy subject for me. God put up Job in a bet with the devil? Killed his kids and having twice as many kids afterwards was supposed to be a consolation prize? I often side with the Job-parable-theorists...maybe just because I have personal issues with the story.
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I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.
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12-01-2010, 09:41 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.
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I'm sorry, you're correct. I typed twice as much goods in my mind and actually applied that to kids. Thank you for pointing that out.
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12-01-2010, 02:00 PM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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I'm sorry, you're correct. I typed twice as much goods in my mind and actually applied that to kids. Thank you for pointing that out. 
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YW.
And like Sam said, technically he did have double the children, just not on earth.
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12-01-2010, 09:45 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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Originally Posted by sandie
I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.
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He didn't have twice as many living kids but the number of his children doubled. Half were alive with him and half were in heaven.
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12-01-2010, 09:51 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
My wife would say, "We treat Fido better than we treat Grandma."
She firmly believes that in conditions where there is no possibility of a medical cure a person who wishes to terminate his/her life should be honored.
I don't know if I feel that strongly about it or not. I have an incurable lung condition (incurable by human and medical standards). The only cure would be a lung transplant but I am in my seventies and, in my opinion, it would be morally wrong for me to receive new lungs when there are others younger than I who need them. I am mobile. I am not on oxygen. I get winded very easily and cannot walk far or exert myself so my condition is not intolerable. And, as I have told my pulmonologist, we are praying and I expect the dead areas of my lungs to be regenerated.
Both my wife and I have living wills and we both have given full power of attorney to each other.
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12-01-2010, 10:00 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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My wife would say, "We treat Fido better than we treat Grandma."
She firmly believes that in conditions where there is no possibility of a medical cure a person who wishes to terminate his/her life should be honored.
I don't know if I feel that strongly about it or not. I have an incurable lung condition (incurable by human and medical standards). The only cure would be a lung transplant but I am in my seventies and, in my opinion, it would be morally wrong for me to receive new lungs when there are others younger than I who need them. I am mobile. I am not on oxygen. I get winded very easily and cannot walk far or exert myself so my condition is not intolerable. And, as I have told my pulmonologist, we are praying and I expect the dead areas of my lungs to be regenerated.
Both my wife and I have living wills and we both have given full power of attorney to each other.
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A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.
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12-01-2010, 10:06 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.
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Outstanding for you!
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12-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.
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Praise the Lord!!
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