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12-01-2010, 09:50 AM
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Re: Why Is The "Christmas Spirit" So Different?
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One can have idolatry without conscious intent. Ever met someone whose car was their idol? They never bow to it saying oh car i worship thee.
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Making a car an idol is consciously adoring something. That is apples and oranges to enjoying gift giving. No one is worshiping anything when they give gifts at Christmas and decorate their homes, compared to idolizing a car. Putting a gift beneath a tree is nothing like worship. It is placing a box where people expect to retrieve them and open them. lol How is THAT anything similar to idolizing a car?
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12-01-2010, 09:56 AM
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Re: Why Is The "Christmas Spirit" So Different?
I said, "If I speak the word "Monday" on the second day of the week, and do not intend to be honouring any moon god on that day, but just entitling that twenty four hour period by the common title, that is no different than reaching down and putting a gift beneath a christmas tree and not intended any sacrifice to any tree idol. God sees the intents of the heart and knows if it is false worship or not." Let me clarify that. Hollering the name of the MOON on the second day of the week was honouring the moon god in ancient times on MONDAY. Does that mean hollering the word "MONDAY" on Monday means we are worshiping the moon god simply because we are doing something SIMILAR to what they did in false worship? No. By the same token it is not bowing in worship of an idol just because we lean down and put a gift beneath a decorated tree. What's the difference?
Anyway, y'all can think what you want.
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12-01-2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: Why Is The "Christmas Spirit" So Different?
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I said, "If I speak the word "Monday" on the second day of the week, and do not intend to be honouring any moon god on that day, but just entitling that twenty four hour period by the common title, that is no different than reaching down and putting a gift beneath a christmas tree and not intended any sacrifice to any tree idol. God sees the intents of the heart and knows if it is false worship or not." Let me clarify that. Hollering the name of the MOON on the second day of the week was honouring the moon god in ancient times on MONDAY. Does that mean hollering the word "MONDAY" on Monday means we are worshiping the moon god simply because we are doing something SIMILAR to what they did in false worship? No. By the same token it is not bowing in worship of an idol just because we lean down and put a gift beneath a decorated tree. What's the difference?
Anyway, y'all can think what you want. 
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Days of the weak is such a weak defense, we can't help the name of the days of the week, but we don't have to partake of pagan customs.
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12-01-2010, 02:07 PM
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Re: Why Is The "Christmas Spirit" So Different?
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Days of the weak is such a weak defense, we can't help the name of the days of the week, but we don't have to partake of pagan customs.
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Same principle all around. So you are saying that what we cannot help, we do not have to deal with, despite identical pagan origins? THAT is inconsistent, I think.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Last edited by mfblume; 12-01-2010 at 02:09 PM.
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12-01-2010, 01:27 PM
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Re: Why Is The "Christmas Spirit" So Different?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Making a car an idol is consciously adoring something. That is apples and oranges to enjoying gift giving. No one is worshiping anything when they give gifts at Christmas and decorate their homes, compared to idolizing a car. Putting a gift beneath a tree is nothing like worship. It is placing a box where people expect to retrieve them and open them. lol How is THAT anything similar to idolizing a car?
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Point being there's no intent to worshop the car. Remember, it's not idolatory if no intent as you say.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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