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Old 12-01-2010, 10:05 AM
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Right so unhook the machines and pray, "Thy will be done."

It is one thing to administer a life ending drug to someone because they are in a painful situation it is another thing altogether to force someone to live by hooking them up to a machine.

I say let him unhook the machines if he wants to.

And that's a great point! Are we circumventing God's will by hooking a person up to 4 million dollars worth of machines? I understand this argument could be applied to all medical treatment, but still.....it's interesting.
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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And that's a great point! Are we circumventing God's will by hooking a person up to 4 million dollars worth of machines? I understand this argument could be applied to all medical treatment, but still.....it's interesting.
And I have no problem with someone that doesn't want to take medication as long as they are competent to reject it. I don't want a parent refusing life saving drugs for a minor.
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:17 AM
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And I have no problem with someone that doesn't want to take medication as long as they are competent to reject it. I don't want a parent refusing life saving drugs for a minor.
...as a former bible school classmate, who's dorm room was next to mine, did and is now serving serious prison time.
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:25 AM
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...as a former bible school classmate, who's dorm room was next to mine, did and is now serving serious prison time.
I don't know your classmate
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it sounds like he/she did what he/she thought was the right thing to do.
It would be harder for me as a parent to with hold medical help from my child that it would for me to with hold medical help from myself.

However-- If I want to "trust the Lord" and refuse medical help for myself it is one thing but for me to "trust the Lord" for my child it is some thing else. I think it is good for the civil authorities to intervene in cases like this, but, I'm kinda fearful of where that "slippery slope" may lead to with the state taking over the "rights" of the parents, especially when "religion" is involved.

Here in Ohio, we know of churches (both UPC and ALJC) which do not believe in doctors and medicine.
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...as a former bible school classmate, who's dorm room was next to mine, did and is now serving serious prison time.
Dale? That situation involved refusing to take their child to the hospital and only calling 911 after she was either dead, or almost so.
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Dale? That situation involved refusing to take their child to the hospital and only calling 911 after she was either dead, or almost so.

Yes, Dale. But the 911 call came from a relative in California who found out what was going on.
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Yes, Dale. But the 911 call came from a relative in California who found out what was going on.
Its been many years but I knew Dale and Leilani (not nearly as well as Dale) quite well. Even before he went to Bible college.

I heard the 911 call played several times and kept up with it in the local Wausau papers. In interviews since then he says he'd do it again if faced with the same situation.

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