"Beards are sin!" False doctrine?

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by houston

Man, I thought my dog was ugly........

[houston]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Man, I thought my dog was ugly........

Shouldn’t you be out milking cows?

[Michael The Disciple]

N DAVID

Here's the deal, and I know you won't like it, but it is what it is so deal with it: if a Pastor wants to have a dress code for those participating on the platform there is nothing wrong with doing so. In fact, and you're really not going to like this, he doesn't have to have scripture and verse to do so. Period. End of story.

And this my friends is the seed of all false doctrine and hypocrisy. No chapter and verse needed. Well obviously because there is none.

But put the shoe on the other foot now. A Catholic is told he is in the true Church. He questions the Friar about Oneness or some other doctrine. The Friar explains HE is the man of God and God has placed the man under his authority.

HE NEEDS NO CHAPTER AND VERSE. HE IS THE MAN OF GOD.

OH but now the Catholic man must go and burn in Hell for trillions of years! why? Because he used the same line of reasoning as N Dave.

So the principal for "Apostolics" is valid but is invalid for anyone else. Yea right.

NO CHAPTER OR VERSE NEEDED.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

And this my friends is the seed of all false doctrine and hypocrisy. No chapter and verse needed. Well obviously because there is none.

But put the shoe on the other foot now. A Catholic is told he is in the true Church. He questions the Friar about Oneness or some other doctrine. The Friar explains HE is the man of God and God has placed the man under his authority.

HE NEEDS NO CHAPTER AND VERSE. HE IS THE MAN OF GOD.

OH but now the Catholic man must go and burn in Hell for trillions of years! why? Because he used the same line of reasoning as N Dave.

So the principal for "Apostolics" is valid but is invalid for anyone else. Yea right.

NO CHAPTER OR VERSE NEEDED.

This is about a dress code, Mike. Not salvific doctrine.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

This is about a dress code, Mike. Not salvific doctrine.

No. This is about beards. Dress codes are about modesty. Beards are just about appearance.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No. This is about beards. Dress codes are about modesty. Beards are just about appearance.

You're drunk. Or off your meds.

Facial hair is typically always included with a dress code.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

You're drunk. Or off your meds.

Facial hair is typically always included with a dress code.

I just want you to understand that I'm not against sound modesty teaching. Modesty is biblical.

But prohibitions against beards are arbitrary human opinions.

[derAlte]

I've been around a few decades and have heard all sorts of reasons why a man should not have a beard...i.e. that male facial hair is actually male makeup, that one is identifying oneself with liberal clergyman, or the hippy movement, etc. In my judgment (that and 5 cents will get you a cup of coffee at Wall Drug in South Dakota) it is simply not intellectually honest to proclaim male facial hair a sin. There isn't a lick of scripture against it. The clincher for me is the fact that the Lord Jesus himself, whom we sing that we want to be like, had a beard. End of story. He is the ultimate arbiter of what is sin and what is not. If He did it, it must not be wrong.

Do I have a beard? No. I don't like having a bushy face. I don't think my Friend cares that I stay clean shaven. I don't condemn anyone who has facial hair. If someone grows a beard just rile up those in authority, it isn't the hair that's the problem, its the heart. We live in a world full of cantankerous and ornery people who would grow a beard just to get a rise. I'm not sure being right on facial hair and out of unity with the body is worth it.

We have ministers in our UPCI district that have facial hair and they are accepted by most who have realized that God is not about to write "Ichabod" over the life of a guy just because he has some hair on his face.

I heard that a preacher in another state sent his son out to start a branch work. The son, after pastoring this branch work for awhile decided to grow a beard. As far as I know, the son still pastors the branch work but when he returns to his dad's church, he is only allowed to run the sound booth because of his beard. This sounds awfully silly to me. I'm not sure the son's attitude was right by growing it but it seems strange that he can pastor out in the field but his ministry is not acknowledged in the home church because of some hair on his face.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by derAlte

I've been around a few decades and have heard all sorts of reasons why a man should not have a beard...i.e. that male facial hair is actually male makeup, that one is identifying oneself with liberal clergyman, or the hippy movement, etc. In my judgment (that and 5 cents will get you a cup of coffee at Wall Drug in South Dakota) it is simply not intellectually honest to proclaim male facial hair a sin. There isn't a lick of scripture against it. The clincher for me is the fact that the Lord Jesus himself, whom we sing that we want to be like, had a beard. End of story. He is the ultimate arbiter of what is sin and what is not. If He did it, it must not be wrong.

Do I have a beard? No. I don't like having a bushy face. I don't think my Friend cares that I stay clean shaven. I don't condemn anyone who has facial hair. If someone grows a beard just rile up those in authority, it isn't the hair that's the problem, its the heart. We live in a world full of cantankerous and ornery people who would grow a beard just to get a rise. I'm not sure being right on facial hair and out of unity with the body is worth it.

We have ministers in our UPCI district that have facial hair and they are accepted by most who have realized that God is not about to write "Ichabod" over the life of a guy just because he has some hair on his face.

I heard that a preacher in another state sent his son out to start a branch work. The son, after pastoring this branch work for awhile decided to grow a beard. As far as I know, the son still pastors the branch work but when he returns to his dad's church, he is only allowed to run the sound booth because of his beard. This sounds awfully silly to me. I'm not sure the son's attitude was right by growing it but it seems strange that he can pastor out in the field but his ministry is not acknowledged in the home church because of some hair on his face.

It is silly. It's obvious to me that men with beards are subpar in their eyes.

[Truthseeker]

God has used clean shaved and bearded men. That's good enough for me.