SKorean Navy Ship Sunk by N. Koreans?

[Ron]

Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Ron

Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Are you suggesting that the U.S. manufactured this incident just to give Obama justification for going to war against N. Korea?

Fact of the matter is: the North has launched raids and attacks against U.S. and S. Korean forces ever since 1950. Remember the Pueblo incident? Remember the unarmed Americans who were hacked to death by ax wielding North Korean soldiers?

Did the U.S. "manufacture" the N. Korean downing of a South Korean airliner in 1987?

Did the U.S. "manufacture" the N. Korean assassination attempt on President Park which left him wounded and his wife dead?

What about the N. Korean raid in Burma that left 4 S. Korean cabinet secretaries dead along with a number of other people?

I suppose Clinton faked North Korea's nuclear tests and all of the missile launches that over flew Japan and S. Korea? And the kidnappings of S. Koreans from Japan and other parts of the world?

You have to understand, FAIR (your link) is a far left advocacy group within the American political spectrum. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was controversial at the time and has remained so. However, Communist aggression against America and Allied nations during the Cold War was real. There was a real war going on and plenty of harm was done by all parties and even by those who were ostensibly "non-aligned."

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by Ron

Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Yep, and also the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides".

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister.

(quotes from the articles are below each link)

MIKHAIL GORBACHEV: From the PRESIDIUM ...to the PRESIDIO

The purpose of this article is to show you exactly who Mikhail Gorbachev is, and examine the enormous role he played in promoting the Socialist Globalist agenda in the West. In this process, you will see that the New World Order, and specifically, the Biblical Antichrist system is well on its way to subduing the earth.


Is the Devil in the New World Order?
Most people are not aware of the Luciferic connection.

In every presidential administration of this century, a substantial, if not majority of all members were linked to Luciferian inspired organizations. Most people seemingly do not know that politics and religion today have been carefully choreographed for centuries with an ultimate goal of world dominion in the mind of Satan and his schemers.


The West's Fatal Embrace of Communism

The US mass media (and most corporations) are controlled by the central banking cartel, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers etc. These are the same people who sponsored Communism.

The guiding principle behind world events is their plan to translate their monopoly over government credit into a world monopoly of power, business, culture and religion.

These bankers use a Hegelian dialectic to achieve their end. They created both Capitalism and Communism as thesis and antithesis. Their aim is a synthesis, combining the political and cultural tyranny of Communism with the appearance of Capitalist free markets.

In 1953, Ford Foundation President, H. Rowan Gaither told Congressional Investigator Norman Dodd that his instructions were to use "our grant-making power so to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."


Central Bankers Seek Totalitarian Power

The "War on Terror" is a ruse by central bankers to control every aspect of your life.

Reviewing "The Red Symphony" recently, I was shocked to read an insider's statement that the bankers are not content with infinite wealth, but want unlimited power.

"The Red Symphony" is a 1938 Stalinist Secret Police (NKVD) interrogation of Christian Rakovsky, a Soviet ambassador who was a close associate of Leon Trotsky, Rothschild's agent.

I introduced this explosive 50-page document to my readers two years ago. It strips the veil from modern history and explains the real meaning of Revolution, Communism, Freemasonry and War. It was not intended to become public knowledge. The translator, a Dr. J. Landowsky, made an unauthorized copy.

[oletime]

I dont think either incident was manufactured ,from what i read on the got incident, it was the result of a nervous sailor looking at radar spotting a thunderstorm and radioing that they were under air attack.Thus the bombing began.PS I was glad nixon ended the draft when he did, i was just graduating

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BroGary

Yep, and also the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides".

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister. ...

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

An Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

And Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

I am just messing with you, of course. I love you like a brother, BoGary. It's just you need to update your conspiracy theories.

Everything "War on Terror" like is just out of date. It doesn't have the resonance that something like "Health Care Take Over and Death Panels" has.

Gorby and the Rothchilds? C'mon Bro. Next you'll be telling me that we're all waiting upon General Lasalle to fight his way into Toledo and rescue us from The Pit.

Update! There has to be a current menace that threatens us.

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I am just messing with you, of course. I love you like a brother, BoGary. It's just you need to update your conspiracy theories.

Everything "War on Terror" like is just out of date. It doesn't have the resonance that something like "Health Care Take Over and Death Panels" has.

Gorby and the Rothchilds? C'mon Bro. Next you'll be telling me that we're all waiting upon General Lasalle to fight his way into Toledo and rescue us from The Pit.

Update! There has to be a current menace that threatens us.

No offense taken bro, I expect some doubters :-)

Anyhow, check out the articles on those links, this is valid info, the globalists plan things out well in advance and plans they made long ago have been being followed as research will show.

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

An Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by BroGary

So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

not in my generation... maybe the next to come.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BroGary

So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

I do believe that throughout recorded human history there has always been a trend toward consolidating realms followed by trends to break up the consolidations.

Look at the history of ancient Egypt - one long record of unification continually interrupted by periods of disunity and local control.

Look at the history of Europe - same thing. And now with global transportation and communications the the whole system can be applied globally.

The Rothschilds are not a real factor in the global economy and even David Rockefeller is a marginal player. The "big international banks" all nearly went bankrupt in the past year and are now partially or even largely controlled by a diverse number of governments who have their own competing interests.

It's chaos. Grand and glorious chaos. That is what protects our freedoms on the local level.

And take another look at the Bible's statements concerning the Antichrist. "He causes all, both small and great..." in the whole world to join his economic plan by having an open scabrous pus oozing sore******* on their right hand or smack dab in the middle of their forehead?

Yet he can't seem to get all the world to go along with it. Consider the "King of the North" (Babylon in the OT) and the "King of the East" (Persia) constantly threatening him. If he can't get Iraq and Iran to heel, then he probably isn't a real global player.