Spontaneous Worship

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Looks to me like her flipping the page of the book signified they were going to the next song. That had nothing to do with whether the song she sang was "spontaneous".

Actually as far as "spontaneous" goes most Pentecostal/Charismatic Churches leave some room for that in worship. Some Apostolic groups are picking up on this kind of worship and I think its a good thing. By this kind of worship I mean a kind of blending of Charismatic and Contemporary Christian music.

I can only speak for the Oneness Churches I've personally been in but to me the shockamoo thing gets old fast. I like songs that are sang directly to the Lord for worship.

When I saw Kim Walker doing this I felt the glorious spirit of Jesus Christ bringing me to tears. Of course I have felt that once in a while from something "Pentecostal".

Back in the 70's I fellowshipped with a group called The Ceylon Pentecostal Mission. They were like their name implies very strong in Pentecostal doctrine but had heavily Charismatic worship. They sing in tongues a lot! It was very wonderful. I have never experienced greater seasons in worship than those days.

I guess a "dead service" must be in the eye of the beholder.

This is a true statement. More than once I have felt the Holy Spirit in a very powerful way during a litergical Lutheran service.

[soldoutochrist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Looks to me like her flipping the page of the book signified they were going to the next song. That had nothing to do with whether the song she sang was "spontaneous".

Actually as far as "spontaneous" goes most Pentecostal/Charismatic Churches leave some room for that in worship. Some Apostolic groups are picking up on this kind of worship and I think its a good thing. By this kind of worship I mean a kind of blending of Charismatic and Contemporary Christian music.

I can only speak for the Oneness Churches I've personally been in but to me the shockamoo thing gets old fast. I like songs that are sang directly to the Lord for worship.

When I saw Kim Walker doing this I felt the glorious spirit of Jesus Christ bringing me to tears. Of course I have felt that once in a while from something "Pentecostal".

Back in the 70's I fellowshipped with a group called The Ceylon Pentecostal Mission. They were like their name implies very strong in Pentecostal doctrine but had heavily Charismatic worship. They sing in tongues a lot! It was very wonderful. I have never experienced greater seasons in worship than those days.

I guess a "dead service" must be in the eye of the beholder.

I agree, for the most part, with you.

I called the worship spontaneous because that's what the church called it upon posting it and I thought that it fit. I don't think that you have to put down the music saying you don't feel anything and that it's a good thing that you aren't among those who do. As I said earlier...to each his own.

[MissBrattified]

I like it as a different and new "style", but I wouldn't want it to be the whole kit and kaboodle.

Vertical worship is overrated, in a certain context. There is a certain superiority complex among those who profess to use mostly or only "vertical worship" songs.

Many songs are meant to speak about God to the congregation, to sing OF His greatness, to testify of His goodness and His great works. In fact I seem to recall a scripture about speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making a melody in your heart to the Lord. That verse seems to cover both ends of the spectrum--singing praises TO God, and singing songs to one another ABOUT God.

To much of one or the other, and...well...there needs to be balance.

Personally, I don't see how the congregation can participate much in the actual song, (in the video referenced on this thread) but I can certainly see that it can set a worshipful atmosphere.

[*AQuietPlace*]

I like songs to and about God.... the ones I don't like are the ones that are about US.... "What kind of church is this? It's an APOSTOLIC CHURCH! We don't do this and we don't do that....." "I'm a Pentecostal". Or songs that sing TO the devil.... "Devil, give me back what you've stolen." Really, do we need to sing TO the devil????

I love songs that glorify God, not the flesh or the devil.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I like songs to and about God.... the ones I don't like are the ones that are about US.... "What kind of church is this? It's an APOSTOLIC CHURCH! We don't do this and we don't do that....." "I'm a Pentecostal". Or songs that sing TO the devil.... "Devil, give me back what you've stolen." Really, do we need to sing TO the devil????

I love songs that glorify God, not the flesh or the devil.

Ok, there is one exception to this. I still enjoy listening to some of Strypers old stuff.

But yes, the "I'm a Pentecostal!" song really grates on me. And that feeling is only amplified when I see the woman with the mighty "poof" and the beehive hair do strutting around belting it out.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by soldoutochrist

Is slowly but surely becoming my favorite type.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqL_Z...e=channel_page

It just seems so much more passionate.
I love seeing people overflowing with their love for God.

Anyone else have any other videos of worship such as this?

We had a spontaneous outbreak in the middle of the offering and announcements. The Lord decided to then start a prayer line and so many received from the Lord. There was a great word in the service as well. It was awesome.

[Michael The Disciple]

There is a certain superiority complex among those who profess to use mostly or only "vertical worship" songs.

No we dont think were better than anybody else. But speaking for myself I do think some forms of music are more spiritual than others.

I agree with Quiet Place. Songs ABOUT GOD how great HE is are very good.

Songs about MAN dont make it for me.

You know like:

Im a one God Apostolic tongue talkin holy roller born again believer.....

Yet there are many many more thats just the glaring example.

[*AQuietPlace*]

That One God Apostolic Tongue-Talking Holy Roller song is just plain fun to sing! I'd not sing it in church, though. Haven't heard anyone do that, actually. Mainly just us kids, seeing how fast we could spit it out.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

No we dont think were better than anybody else. But speaking for myself I do think some forms of music are more spiritual than others.

I wasn't talking about you in particular, but I'm a musician/singer/director (director currently on sabbatical), so I usually know what the current trends are, and the "vertical worship" thing is sort of a trend. I understand what it's supposed to mean, but just like anything else that lacks balance, it can get carried away with itself.

I'm talking about snooty remarks made by some musicians such as, "We only sing songs that are vertical." Said in a condescending tone, of course.

I'm quite alright if someone feels that's the better route to go, although I think it lacks balance. But there IS a certain disdain for some of the older hymns and songs that are not seen as being "spiritual" enough. Again--by SOME. Not all.

I agree with Quiet Place. Songs ABOUT GOD how great HE is are very good.

Songs about MAN don't make it for me.

You know like:

Im a one God Apostolic tongue talkin holy roller born again believer.....

Yet there are many many more thats just the glaring example.

I'm not really a big fan of those types of songs, either, but I don't think there's anything wrong with them. Different people relate to music in different ways. Providing a diverse congregation with just one little slice is going prevent some people from plugging in to the worship--through no real fault of their own, except that they can't identify.

I've heard fun songs in church...once our kids' choir sang a song called "The Poochie Lip Disease." It was so funny, the verses were about King Ahab getting upset because he didn't get his way regarding Naboth's vineyard, and the chorus says,

The poochie lip will getcha if you don't watch out
The poochie lip will getcha if you start to pout
So take this little tip
Please control that lower lip
And chase away the poochie lip disease.

So the kids stuck their lower lips out and sang a song that illustrated a point about having a good attitude. It was fun, and they were learning while they sang!

Songs are not just for worship. Music is a great teaching tool, a great ministry tool, and very effectively used in testimonials. The idea that music can only be used for praise and worship is very limiting, IMO.

[Blubayou]

I watched the video and frankly it did not do much for me. ( Yes, I know I am an old fogey) I have a problem with the constant repetition in the new praise songs. Does the Bible talk about vain repetitions? There are songs of inspiration that can be sung in church that will encourage worship and praise. Songs that quote scripture is fine and I enjoy singing them. But I also enjoy songs that are written from writers experience and story. I do think there should be a blend praise songs.