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Old 07-12-2011, 02:56 PM
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True, however coming BACK to the Pastor's page as well as their own status with more profanity, "blasting" their name, the name of their ministry and all their congregation with other profanities...OPENLY calling attention to the matter is clearly (black and white) wrong.
When the pastor said something publicly he opens himself up to being responded to publicly. Sure the person was wrong but as a pastor he should have done the right thing. I don't care how bad a sinner is, I do care that pastors are acting right.

There used to be a lot of pastors on this forum that would hint at thing and say things that weren't right and people would call them on what they were saying. Guess what? Most of those guys are gone now because they couldn't not handle their actions or ideas being questioned.
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That I feel according to the bible is very wrong. Never attack the man of God even when he is not your shepherd.
I was waiting on SOMEONE to notice that little bit of information. Even if its NOT your Pastor, posting statements that disrespect him IN FRONT OF his members and collegues is WRONG.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:59 PM
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When the pastor said something publicly he opens himself up to being responded to publicly. Sure the person was wrong but as a pastor he should have done the right thing. I don't care how bad a sinner is, I do care that pastors are acting right.

There used to be a lot of pastors on this forum that would hint at thing and say things that weren't right and people would call them on what they were saying. Guess what? Most of those guys are gone now because they couldn't not handle their actions or ideas being questioned.
You are still saying a sinner. This person is SAVED.
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I vote this the most confusing thread in months!
And I haven't even chimed in yet! Just wait......
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I was waiting on SOMEONE to notice that little bit of information. Even if its NOT your Pastor, posting statements that disrespect him IN FRONT OF his members and collegues is WRONG.
Nobody should be disrespected in front of anyone, not just Pastors
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You are still saying a sinner. This person is SAVED.
I don't think they are. What evidence do we have that they are a christian?

This is what I do know.

John 13:34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
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I don't think they are. What evidence do we have that they are a christian?

This is what I do know.

John 13:34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
What Kingdom is saying is that this person attends another church associated with this Pastor's church
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When the pastor said something publicly he opens himself up to being responded to publicly. Sure the person was wrong but as a pastor he should have done the right thing. I don't care how bad a sinner is, I do care that pastors are acting right.

There used to be a lot of pastors on this forum that would hint at thing and say things that weren't right and people would call them on what they were saying. Guess what? Most of those guys are gone now because they couldn't not handle their actions or ideas being questioned.
If they felt disrespected I can imagine why they would leave. Sometimes we forget that they are still leaders even if they are on fb and on discussion boards like this one. They are not THE authority, but they should still be respected.

Now the Pastor in which I speak is very vocal concerning issues about the church world in general...etc. and people rely on his wisdom concerning a lot of issues. I highly doubt this action was not thought about. When does open rebuke come to play-- just curious as to what you think.
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If they felt disrespected I can imagine why they would leave. Sometimes we forget that they are still leaders even if they are on fb and on discussion boards like this one. They are not THE authority, but they should still be respected.

Now the Pastor in which I speak is very vocal concerning issues about the church world in general...etc. and people rely on his wisdom concerning a lot of issues. I highly doubt this action was not thought about. When does open rebuke come to play-- just curious as to what you think.
Everyone should be respected
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That I feel according to the bible is very wrong. Never attack the man of God even when he is not your shepherd.
Do you believe it is MORE wrong to attack a "man of God" then any other random person?

If so how do I know another guy who calls me out publicly is a real "man of God" and doesn't just proclaim himself to be? After all, I didn't agree to become his underling.

Any comments I have on this situation are based purely on imaginary scenarios in my mind since I know virtually zero actual details.
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