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03-03-2007, 04:50 PM
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Por Favor!
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03-03-2007, 04:51 PM
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Please what?
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03-03-2007, 05:02 PM
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Dan ... steps off the mound ... fixes his cap .. he puts his toe back on the rubber ... he sets ... the windup and the pitch ...
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03-03-2007, 05:02 PM
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Some friend you are....
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03-03-2007, 05:03 PM
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Dan ... steps off the mound ... fixes his cap .. he puts toe back on the rubber ... he sets ... the windup and the pitch ...
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03-03-2007, 07:53 PM
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Bishop, Elder , Pastor are synonymous terms for the same office.
Apostles in the NT. set the churches in order but Bishops oversaw the local assemblies.
Councils like the Jerusalem council in ACTS .15 were voluntary meetings for consenus on fonudational doctrine and practice but the local assemblies were autonomous and soverign.
A NT. presybetry were a group of Elders in a local assembly.
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03-03-2007, 08:01 PM
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ein-ai mi-as gu-nai-kos an-dra
exist as one with wife husband
The key word in the Greek is, ein-ai. The English translation leaves this word out, it is to exist, to be.
To translate this phrase in English we have to move the subject and thus, "husband exist as one with your wife."
Don't like it? Fine. Don't believe it. Think what you've always thought then.
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03-03-2007, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronzo
ein-ai mi-as gu-nai-kos an-dra
exist as one with wife husband
The key word in the Greek is, ein-ai. The English translation leaves this word out, it is to exist, to be.
To translate this phrase in English we have to move the subject and thus, "husband exist as one with your wife."
Don't like it? Fine. Don't believe it. Think what you've always thought then.
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Actually that word IS translated. You realize that other languages, like greek, are not translated word for word...sometimes the word order is turned around from ours...
That word is translated "be" as in "A Bishop must then BE blameless, the husband of one (mia) wife"
In fact the very first word in the greek is the greek word for "must"...yet we see the translators translate that word third
BTW here is how this word is translated in the KJV
to be 33, be 28, was 15, is 14, am 7, are 6, were 4, not translated 11, miscellaneous 8
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03-04-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Bishop, Elder , Pastor are synonymous terms for the same office.
Apostles in the NT. set the churches in order but Bishops oversaw the local assemblies.
Councils like the Jerusalem council in ACTS .15 were voluntary meetings for consenus on fonudational doctrine and practice but the local assemblies were autonomous and soverign.
A NT. presybetry were a group of Elders in a local assembly.
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and the churches had more then one elder/bishop overseeing the local church.
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03-03-2007, 08:09 PM
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RONZO wouldn't this exclude women from being Bishops?
A Bishop have to be at one with his wife and not be at odds with her and have alot of contention in the home.
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