DKBs 1st Test: Will He Uphold Manual w/ Craft?

[Sunni]

"But I digress .....I have to question the legitimacy of any WPF General Council member who is not a member of the WPF to participate in the functions described in their bylaws ...

Their vote would, I believe, be void.

This position as described is more than just an advisory position." -DAII

I don't really think the GC has done anything... It is such a new group that I think they created more organization than they even use at this point. I am quite sure Bro. Craft is not doing much advising since I have attended all the recent large meetings plus more... and have not seen him at ANY of them....

And yes, even though it makes your 'concerns' about his dual-involvement a bit dramatic (and obvious of your never-ending agenda by bringing it up), I think the general council was a name dropping exercise initially while they were seeking legitimacy- and really has had no role so far... I would have to be unconscious to deny that they have not made mistakes in their start up process. I have no desire to hash that out on this forum.. Some of you keep boredom at bay by doing that- I, myself enjoy a good book, walks around the lake, and twitter .

As far as the other, Bro. Craft is a wonderful man up in age.. It seems just mean to pick on him.... Oh well, 'tis what it is; he probably could care less anyway...

I really did not intend for my few posts to be for the purpose of the Faithful Critics and Illustrious Leaders of Sarcasm to pick all apart.... I do realize though that I was asking for it when I jumped in on one of your threads.

I have never been of the crowd that thinks organization or leadership is not open for scrutiny. But with the very sad fact that I get my feelings hurt- (I said it was very sad!), my minority-WPF-self (albeit, I am a girl- with NO card) will stay clear from this point from inviting argument... I have no desire to further become the spokesperson for all their bylaws, agendas, etc.... Once again, I just liked Bro. Craft....

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Sunni

"But I digress .....I have to question the legitimacy of any WPF General Council member who is not a member of the WPF to participate in the functions described in their bylaws ...

Their vote would, I believe, be void.

This position as described is more than just an advisory position." -DAII

I don't really think the GC has done anything... It is such a new group that I think they created more organization than they even use at this point. I am quite sure Bro. Craft is not doing much advising since I have attended all the recent large meetings plus more... and have not seen him at ANY of them....

And yes, even though it makes your 'concerns' about his dual-involvement a bit dramatic (and obvious of your never-ending agenda by bringing it up), I think the general council was a name dropping exercise initially while they were seeking legitimacy- and really has had no role so far... I would have to be unconscious to deny that they have not made mistakes in their start up process. I have no desire to hash that out on this forum.. Some of you keep boredom at bay by doing that- I, myself enjoy a good book, walks around the lake, and twitter .

As far as the other, Bro. Craft is a wonderful man up in age.. It seems just mean to pick on him.... Oh well, 'tis what it is; he probably could care less anyway...

I really did not intend for my few posts to be for the purpose of the Faithful Critics and Illustrious Leaders of Sarcasm to pick all apart.... I do realize though that I was asking for it when I jumped in on one of your threads.

I have never been of the crowd that thinks organization or leadership is not open for scrutiny. But with the very sad fact that I get my feelings hurt- (I said it was very sad!), my minority-WPF-self (albeit, I am a girl- with NO card) will stay clear from this point from inviting argument... I have no desire to further become the spokesperson for all their bylaws, agendas, etc.... Once again, I just liked Bro. Craft....

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[Michael]

Its a word game and loopholes...
Its like the "shadow party" type thing.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Michael

Its a word game and loopholes...
Its like the "shadow party" type thing.

I started to see that those who espouse full truth are masters at creating loopholes and riddles.

Had an interesting discussion with a 3 stepper who believes the term "full salvation" in the UPCI"s Fundamental Doctrine from the get go precludes one steppers from the org ... believing this loophole justifies those who believe that it is okay to extinguish brethren with diverse views on salvation.

Actually, the use of the qualifier "full" was very much deliberate when it was included in the AOF ... without it ... there is no merger because no one-stepper will say that the biblical standard of salvation are the 3 steps.

Moreover, "full salvation" and "full gospel" are terms that had a value during the birth of the Pentecostal movement ... among mainline Pentecostals ... and it never connoted "to obtain salvation" but rather that the baptism of the Holy Spirit was part of the full experience post salvation. ....

Loopholes are for those who seek to legitimize their personal agendas ... this perceived alleged loophole is an affront to the merger agreement itself.

But I digress .....I have to question the legitimacy of any WPF General Council member who is not a member of the WPF to participate in the functions described in their bylaws ...

Their vote would, I believe, be void.

This position as described is more than just an advisory position.

[Michael]

Well my brother inlaw is a member of a WPF church, he is a minister but his license is with the local church. (ex-upci)
When they say fellowship they mean fellowship/friendship/community...of like faith.
Each church issue's out there own licenses.
I don't believe you would want to be apart of it, because of what they believe.

[Michael]

sunni, hey i think you took it wrong.
Its just that many here don't really know much about the WPF.
This year I'm actually moving to a "WPF-church."
No Limits is next week and I'll be driving out, I tend to lean that way.
However, what I said about loopholes/word games. I'll admit it. Its true.
Now the question is, is it wrong? Naw.

[Michael]

I didn't say there wasn't a form.
I said no-one has filled one out...Do you know one person who has?
I don't know one person who can name ONE person who holds a license with the WPF.
Funding comes from other forms.
Have you heard of REACH WORLD WIDE?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Michael

I didn't say there wasn't a form.
I said no-one has filled one out...Do you know one person who has?
I don't know one person who can name ONE person who holds a license with the WPF.
Funding comes from other forms.
Have you heard of REACH WORLD WIDE?

Michael, help us all out - when you respond to someone, please hit the "Quote" button at the bottom of the quote you're responding to. I'm certain that the folks you are talking to are following you just fine, but those of us who are just nosing into your business could use a little help.

You can highlight and delete the lengthy portions and replace them with an ellipse - the three dots ...