Holiness for Children: Kingdom Kids Series

[CC1]

I have not read this thread yet, only the initial post. I discovered these books a few years ago when RR was first discussed back on FCF.

I was mortified. Just when I think the UPC / OP's can't figure out a way to marginalize themselves anymore than they already have they come up with RR.

She is not content to teach error to only the ladies of the UPC at district sanctioned women's conferences but now is going to insure a whole generation of girls believing in magical power in their hair and stinking judgemental attitudes towards others who don't dress as they do.

I am not being smarty or joking when I say that the first time I read excerpts from these books those years ago I wanted to cry. It is a shame that this is being promoted in the UPC.

Add this thread subject to one more reason I could never see me going back to the UPC.

[sola gratia]

Originally Posted by CC1

I have not read this thread yet, only the initial post. I discovered these books a few years ago when RR was first discussed back on FCF.

I was mortified. Just when I think the UPC / OP's can't figure out a way to marginalize themselves anymore than they already have they come up with RR.

She is not content to teach error to only the ladies of the UPC at district sanctioned women's conferences but now is going to insure a whole generation of girls believing in magical power in their hair and stinking judgemental attitudes towards others who don't dress as they do.

I am not being smarty or joking when I say that the first time I read excerpts from these books those years ago I wanted to cry. It is a shame that this is being promoted in the UPC.

Add this thread subject to one more reason I could never see me going back to the UPC.

What she is teaching is heresy. It's intolerable, and perhaps one of the saddest things I have ever heard. It's so far over the line, that I cannot even fathom such garbage ever being purchased.

[Pressing-On]

Transcribed

RH
Speaking on the Ten Commandments.

"And the last six deal with our love for one another. Honoring our parents, killing, adultery, stealing, bearing false witness and covet."

"Now, you're gonna probably laugh at me, but I can even find HOLINESS in the Ten Commandments."

"It says thou shalt not commit adultery. Well, ladies if I wear a dress that makes a man commit adultery in his heart when he looks at me then I've just committed adultery."

"It says, thou shalt not bear false witness. Well, if I smear something all over my face that is supposed to make me look like something I'm really not, then I have just born false witness."

"I mean, it's called "make-up" which means to lie, right?, so you see you can find Holiness in the Ten Commandments."

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Transcribed

RH
Speaking on the Ten Commandments.

I remember this being discussed before.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I remember this being discussed before.

LOL! Yes, Felicity. I remember you staying up late one night waiting for me to get it transcribed.

I do save some things if even for a laugh.

My contention with her here would be her use of the translation for "bearing false witness". That is so horribly out of context it is scary.

She was laughing and the audience was screaming and clapping. Now, my first impression was, "How many of you ladies actually study the Word of God?"

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by sola gratia

What she is teaching is heresy. It's intolerable, and perhaps one of the saddest things I have ever heard. It's so far over the line, that I cannot even fathom such garbage ever being purchased.

Some people just love garbage!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Some people just love garbage!

Although I don't agree with the pushing of the "hair doctrine", I believe that RRH has tried her best, with her teaching which BTW has been approved by high leadership, to put out some books on modesty for young girls.

I cannot fault her on that. I would have never read them to my daughter. Well, I might have if someone loaned them to me, but I would have skipped over or changed some of the wording.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by sola gratia

What she is teaching is heresy. It's intolerable, and perhaps one of the saddest things I have ever heard. It's so far over the line, that I cannot even fathom such garbage ever being purchased.

Good to see you SG!!!!

[SDG]

"It says thou shalt not commit adultery. Well, ladies if I wear a dress that makes a man commit adultery in his heart when he looks at me then I've just committed adultery."

She could covered head to toe ... Islamic style ... and the man could still lust in his heart ... does that make her an adulterer???...

Let's be real!!!!!!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

She could covered head to toe ... Islamic style ... and the man could still lust in his hear ... does that make her an adulterer ...

Let's be real!!!!!!!

Yes, Daniel. If we wanted to be technical we could produce all the info on how Muslim men actually treat their women - covered head to toe. It doesn't appear to make any difference to them.