Christmas thought

mfblume · #1 12-14-2009, 02:13 PM

I spoke to the church yesterday about this thought. Gen 5:1 says God made man in His Likeness. But in Philippians 2:7, we read God made Himself in Man's LIKENESS.

Genesis 5:1 KJV This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

Philippians 2:7 KJV But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Man lost his dominion God gave to Adam when He made Adam in His likeness. God ruled the heavens and man ruled the earth. In order to get man back to this place again, He had to come in the LIKENESS of men in order to take man's sins and take our death penalties due to those sins.

Imagine a man on death row who dies the death penalty. His death penalty paid for his crimes. If he could only resurrect, he could live a life free of all the guilt of his crimes, since his death penalty paid the price.

That is just what happened to us. Since Jesus took our sins and death penalties, we came into a union to Jesus. Therefore, when He resurrected, we are said to have resurrected with Him. And now we can live our lives free from the guilt and judgment of our sins since the death penalty was paid THROUGH Jesus.

And not only that, He raised and ascended us right up there with Him to sit in heavenly places.

Ephesians 2:5-6 KJV Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved; ) (6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

So He had to come in man;s likeness in order to unite us to Himself, die our death penalties, and raised us up with Him back ON THE THRONE as Adam had dominion.

That is the sole reason the baby was born in Bethlehem! To come in OUR LIKENESS so He could die and take us with Him to the position of dominion Adam lost.

He came IN OUR LIKENESS SO WE COULD UNITE TO HIM AND RETURN TO HIS LIKENESS.

Pressing-On · #2 12-14-2009, 03:15 PM

Excellent, Bro. Blume!

Did you expound some on I Peter 3:21; Col 2:12; and Romans 6:4?

I would have liked to have read that as well. Very powerful!!!

I'm thinking that the penalty doesn't apply to our lives until we identify with Him in Baptism. "Buried" in Romans 6:4 is very powerful, meaning: "to inter in company with".

mfblume · #3 12-14-2009, 04:16 PM

I did not get into those specific verses, but did concentrate on how Rom 6:3 says it is only so many of us -- a particular people - who were baptized into Jesus can say they were baptized into his death. They came into union and share his death.

Pressing-On · #4 12-14-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I did not get into those specific verses, but did concentrate on how Rom 6:3 says it is only so many of us -- a particular people - who were baptized into Jesus can say they were baptized into his death. They came into union and share his death.

Amen! Sounds like a great Christmas message!!!

Scott Hutchinson · #5 12-14-2009, 04:53 PM

Great thoughts.

ForeverBlessed · #6 12-14-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Excellent, Bro. Blume!

Did you expound some on I Peter 3:21; Col 2:12; and Romans 6:4?

I would have liked to have read that as well. Very powerful!!!

I'm thinking that the penalty doesn't apply to our lives until we identify with Him in Baptism. "Buried" in Romans 6:4 is very powerful, meaning: "to inter in company with".

I didn't realize that...thanks for sharing that... it confirms what I believe that baptism has more to its spiritual side. I know what the outward physical going down into water represents to everyone (whether it is the same belief or not).

I have seen baptism spiritually meaning to immerse yourself in everything that Jesus was... every word and action. That sure can't be done without inter into company with him... that is a daily thing.. that continues.

It is by faith, but faith produces action (works) in James 2:18. Romans 10:17 (Amplified Bible) 17 So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself).

hearing/reading the word brings about faith... faith brings about action of doing what Christ did on this earth. Doing what he said and doing what he did so that it identifies you as His. When we operate as he did...under his authority... Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

I love what Bro Blume has said about we have been restored to the dominion (authority) that man was created with in the beginning.

Awesome. I love it when God confirms things to me that I am seeing while studying.

Scott Hutchinson · #7 12-14-2009, 05:06 PM

What the first Adam lost,we gain through the second Adam,Jesus Christ.
At Pentecost God's breathed on man again,wind is associated with breath.
Those in the Upper Room,were filled with God's breath and became temples of The Holy Spirit.

mfblume · #8 12-14-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I didn't realize that...thanks for sharing that... it confirms what I believe that baptism has more to its spiritual side. I know what the outward physical going down into water represents to everyone (whether it is the same belief or not).

I have seen baptism spiritually meaning to immerse yourself in everything that Jesus was... every word and action. That sure can't be done without inter into company with him... that is a daily thing.. that continues.

It is by faith, but faith produces action (works) in James 2:18. Romans 10:17 (Amplified Bible) 17 So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself).

hearing/reading the word brings about faith... faith brings about action of doing what Christ did on this earth. Doing what he said and doing what he did so that it identifies you as His. When we operate as he did...under his authority... Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

I love what Bro Blume has said about we have been restored to the dominion (authority) that man was created with in the beginning.

Awesome. I love it when God confirms things to me that I am seeing while studying.

Sounds like we're in the same church. The Spirit is like that. I do not know how many times some brethren whom I knew across the miles were hearing the same thing from God that he was speaking to us.

One brother and I seem to have been connected in the Spirit, and he would call on several occasions all excited about what he saw to preach about. And it turned out I was on the very same biblical account and concept. One time it was about something to do with Noah, and I had the exact same thought on the same weekend. Real Spirit leading!

One sister in our church studied Saturday mornings and after I preached the next Sunday morning, she came to me and showed me her notebook she wrote in the day before. She had the SAME GENERAL TITLE I used in my message, and the same passages. She said, "I don't know why I shouldn't expect this now, it happens so much." That day took the cake, though!

Pressing-On · #9 12-15-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I didn't realize that...thanks for sharing that... it confirms what I believe that baptism has more to its spiritual side. I know what the outward physical going down into water represents to everyone (whether it is the same belief or not).

I have seen baptism spiritually meaning to immerse yourself in everything that Jesus was... every word and action. That sure can't be done without inter into company with him... that is a daily thing.. that continues.

It is by faith, but faith produces action (works) in James 2:18. Romans 10:17 (Amplified Bible) 17 So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself).

hearing/reading the word brings about faith... faith brings about action of doing what Christ did on this earth. Doing what he said and doing what he did so that it identifies you as His. When we operate as he did...under his authority... Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

I love what Bro Blume has said about we have been restored to the dominion (authority) that man was created with in the beginning.

Awesome. I love it when God confirms things to me that I am seeing while studying.

Amen! Good thoughts, Foreverblessed!!!

mfblume · #10 12-15-2009, 08:32 AM

Great thoughts all. We came into UNION with Jesus. I like how the GNB translates the picture:

Romans 6:3-4 GNB For surely you know that when we were baptized into union with Christ Jesus, we were baptized into union with his death. (4) By our baptism, then, we were buried with him and shared his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from death by the glorious power of the Father, so also we might live a new life.

Baptized into union with Christ's death kicked off a sequence of events in which God, in a moment, caused us to unite to everything that followed His death. That is, His burial, resurrection, ascension and seating in Heavenly places.

Understanding this union is the entire key to victory. This is why Paul said it is like looking at a mirror when we see Jesus, in 2 Cor 3:18. He is a mirror because when we see the one who died, was buried, arose and ascended to sit in glory on the throne, we see the same experiences He had that are in ourselves since we DIED WITH HIM and experienced all the rest WITH HIM, even the seating in glory.

If all we see in Him is the HE experienced these things, we do not have the MIRROR IMAGE REVELATION that 2 Cor 3:18 is trying to instill within us. Only when we realize we experienced these things THROUGH HIM having experienced them, can we gain confidence to overcome anything we know Jesus can overcome. He did say, after all, that the things He did shall we do!

He came to return us to his likeness. And how much more is that possible if we are in the likeness of his resurrection and seating in glory over every name that is named???