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Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
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06-06-2011, 08:16 AM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
Modesty is cultural.
Otherwise he should have the girls in his church wear a head covering / veil just like the early church did. Because its in the bible, and if you don't follow that your a freaking liberal sellout.
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06-06-2011, 08:27 AM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by Apocrypha
Modesty is cultural.
Otherwise he should have the girls in his church wear a head covering / veil just like the early church did. Because its in the bible, and if you don't follow that your a freaking liberal sellout.
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To so degree it is cultural, but basis of modesty or intent is alwyas the same.
Years again women wouldn't have been caught dead in public with sleeves above their elbows.
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06-06-2011, 08:30 AM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
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To so degree it is cultural, but basis of modesty or intent is alwyas the same.
Years again women wouldn't have been caught dead in public with sleeves above their elbows.
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many years ago man was wearing camel skins.......
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06-06-2011, 02:57 PM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
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many years ago man was wearing camel skins.......
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Not this man, though I did have a cashmere jacket once.
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07-16-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
To so degree it is cultural, but basis of modesty or intent is alwyas the same.
Years again women wouldn't have been caught dead in public with sleeves above their elbows.
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If you want to carry your thought out a little further there was a time a few hundred years ago when a woman ankle showing was considered erotic and scandalous.
Modesty and moderation are moving targets to some degree and do change over time with cultural norms.
When Pentecostals or anybody else tries to ignore these facts it hurts their credibility. One good example is the insistence of many Pentecostals that pants are mens apparel when it is clear that for the last generation they are also women's apparel. Not exactly the same as men's because the cut is differnent much the same way a women's blouse is shirtlike but cut different to fit a woman's physique.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-16-2011, 06:59 PM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
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Originally Posted by Apocrypha
Modesty is cultural.
Otherwise he should have the girls in his church wear a head covering / veil just like the early church did. Because its in the bible, and if you don't follow that your a freaking liberal sellout.
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doesn't sound like you're a dyed in the wool conservative yourself! 
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07-16-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
Headcovering/Vail is New Testament culture. When the end time restoration happens all the Churches will be teaching it.
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07-16-2011, 08:43 PM
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Re: Modesty and New Creation by Steve Pixler
Love Bro Pixler !
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