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02-24-2012, 11:25 PM
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Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=49740
by John Hayward
02/24/2012
People who are concerned about the spread of Muslim sharia law into American jurisprudence used to be dismissed as alarmists. That won’t happen again for a while, thanks to a Pennsylvania judge who just dismissed assault charges against a Muslim who was videotaped attacking a man dressed as “Zombie Muhammad” during a Halloween parade.
The judge, who is a Muslim, didn’t even care to see the videotape, because the assault was entirely justified under sharia law, so the First Amendment doesn’t apply. In fact, the beaten Zombie Muhammad should just be thankful he wasn’t killed, because that’s what would have happened in a Muslim country.
The astonishing details, from Opposing Views:
The Pennsylvania State Director of American Atheists, Inc., Mr. Ernest Perce V., was assaulted by a Muslim while participating in a Halloween parade. Along with a Zombie Pope, Ernest was costumed as Zombie Muhammad. The assault was caught on video, the Muslim man admitted to his crime and charges were filed in what should have been an open-and-shut case. That’s not what happened, though.
The defendant is an immigrant and claims he did not know his actions were illegal, or that it was legal in this country to represent Muhammad in any form. To add insult to injury, he also testified that his 9 year old son was present, and the man said he felt he needed to show his young son that he was willing to fight for his Prophet.
Muslim judge Mark Martin ruled in favor of the assailant… and insulted the defendant for good measure.
Martin offered the court a little lesson in Islamic theology, which he believes transcends that silly First Amendment free-speech stuff in the U.S. Constitution:
Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. In fact I have a copy of the Koran here and I challenge you sir to show me where it says in the Koran that Mohammad arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted things. Before you start mocking someone else’s religion you may want to find out a little bit more about it it makes you look like a dufus and Mr. (Defendant) is correct. In many Arabic speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society.
Islam is not just a religion, it’s their culture, their culture. It’s their very essence their very being. They pray five times a day towards Mecca to be a good Muslim, before you die you have to make a pilgrimage to Mecca unless you are otherwise told you can not because you are too ill too elderly, whatever but you must make the attempt. Their greetings wa-laikum as-Salâm (is answered by voice) may god be with you. Whenever, it’s very common when speaking to each other it’s very common for them to say uh this will happen it’s it they are so immersed in it.
Since Islam is, therefore, at the very center of a Muslim’s being, speech they find objectionable – such as depicting the Prophet in any form, much less as an extra from The Walking Dead – “trashes their essence, their being,” and violence is justified, especially from a recent immigrant accustomed to living in countries properly governed by sharia law.
As Al Stefanelli notes at Opposing Views, the judge didn’t even pretend to understand what the First Amendment means, never mind pondering the laws against physical harassment:
The Judge neglected to address the fact that the ignorance of the law does not justify an assault and that it was the responsibility of the defendant to familiarize himself with our laws. This is to say nothing of the judge counseling the defendant that it is also not acceptable for him to teach his children that it is acceptable to use violence in the defense of religious beliefs. Instead, the judge gives Mr. Perce a lesson in Sharia law and drones on about the Muslim faith, inform everyone in the court room how strongly he embraces Islam, that the first amendment does not allow anyone ”to piss off other people and other cultures” and he was also insulted by Mr. Perce’s portrayal of Mohammed and the sign he carried.
Martin went on to call the plaintiff a “doofus.”
In other news, enraged Catholics reacted to the sight of an atheist parading around as the Zombie Pope by stifling yawns.
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02-25-2012, 12:37 AM
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Re: Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
Not surprised. I warned about this stuff happening years ago...let's hold our breath and see if this judge is not removed
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02-25-2012, 02:45 AM
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Re: Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
Prax, just how long are you wanting to hold your breath. We can help you hold your breath until this judge is replaced, but I would want a waiver signed as we would likely be charged with manslaughter.
Islam is a vicious and violent religion and culture. The reason that they are appeased over the protests of others is because all know that they will become violent if provoked. I wonder how long we are going to sit idle when there is so much work that must be done.
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02-25-2012, 06:20 AM
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Just think brothers, in less than twenty-five years there are enough American born muslims that one of them can run for president of the US. A good way to get started is, judge, council member, mayor, representative, and so on.
There will be enough musliums in this country along with the idiots which don't have a clue, to elect a muslim.
America, the tree which allows the fowl of the earth to dwell.
In the OT God commanded the nation of Israel to drive these people out of their land, but they didn't listen, they became friends with them.
It wasn't too long they didn't have a nation. Now that they do, they are still having problems with these same people's decendants from over 3,000 years ago.
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02-25-2012, 07:23 AM
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Ok, well that frame just toads the wet sprocket, ok? Sure, there are "Muslims" who feel this way, and they are actively seeking to push this agenda on all, in defiance of Islam. "The Opening" in the Koran makes them liars, and while most Muslims would surely agree with this ruling, that is still not a fair characterization of Muslims as a whole, who as you point out live in a completely different culture.
You would have it that this religion was directed by God to be eradicated from the Promised land, when the Bible does not support this at all, and in fact "Ishmael was blessed of God" makes a lie. We are clearly informed of Nations, Ammonites, Amorites, etc., that were to be ousted, and not Islam, so I find this disingenuous at the very least.
I'd like to suggest that a more accurate frame would be the relentless attempts to reinsert Law over Grace, in defiance of both Christianity and, surprise! Islam, and that you play into diabolical hands, and help to erect a wall with this. Islam is not your enemy--satan is.
That this judge obviously needs counseling from both the Constitution he swore to uphold, and from his religion which he misrepresents is not in doubt.
"Islam is a vicious and violent..."
According to Fox News and the uninformed, surely. I would count many, but by no means most Muslims here.
"It wasn't too long they didn't have a nation..."
Lol, please? This had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam.
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02-25-2012, 04:41 PM
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Re: Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
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Ok, well that frame just toads the wet sprocket, ok?
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I have never heard that before. What in the world does that mean?
I agree that Islam was not what God commanded the Israelites to drive out of the land.
The problem that our nation in growing cold torward God, they first turned torward atheism, followed by the occult, and now are turning torward Islam. This is the strength of Islam in that they can wait for centuries when attempting to acheive their goals. They have been attempting to reach this point for more than 1500 years.
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02-26-2012, 04:45 PM
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Re: Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
Ok, well that frame just toads the wet sprocket, ok? Sure, there are "Muslims" who feel this way, and they are actively seeking to push this agenda on all, in defiance of Islam. "The Opening" in the Koran makes them liars, and while most Muslims would surely agree with this ruling, that is still not a fair characterization of Muslims as a whole, who as you point out live in a completely different culture.
You would have it that this religion was directed by God to be eradicated from the Promised land, when the Bible does not support this at all, and in fact "Ishmael was blessed of God" makes a lie. We are clearly informed of Nations, Ammonites, Amorites, etc., that were to be ousted, and not Islam, so I find this disingenuous at the very least.
I'd like to suggest that a more accurate frame would be the relentless attempts to reinsert Law over Grace, in defiance of both Christianity and, surprise! Islam, and that you play into diabolical hands, and help to erect a wall with this. Islam is not your enemy--satan is.
That this judge obviously needs counseling from both the Constitution he swore to uphold, and from his religion which he misrepresents is not in doubt.
"Islam is a vicious and violent..."
According to Fox News and the uninformed, surely. I would count many, but by no means most Muslims here.
"It wasn't too long they didn't have a nation..."
Lol, please? This had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam.
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If, as you say, most agree with the ruling, then it DOES characterize Muslims as a whole.
If I criticize Lee Stoneking I don't expect a death sentence on me. If a Muslim criticizes a local leader such as "Mohammad Jazee Ding Dong" they can expect a fire bomb thrown their window at any random night.
So how many hours of NPR do you listen to a day? Or PMSNBC?
Last edited by RandyWayne; 02-26-2012 at 04:49 PM.
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02-25-2012, 07:34 AM
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Re: Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
The Opening
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7) The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, those whose portion is not wrath, and who do not go astray.
Any Muslim not adhering to this, whether it be one of them or all of them, is not a Muslim, and what issues from their mouths is irrelevant, gentlemen, just like in Christianity. Please get clear who your enemy is.
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02-25-2012, 07:53 AM
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Re: Islamic Law Trumps Constitution
maybe they should give us back our right to pray in school.
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02-25-2012, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by deafdriscoll
maybe they should give us back our right to pray in school.
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Hmm, "they" can't take my right to pray in school, imo, at least not Scriptural prayer.
You seem to look for a Lawgiver for Grace here?
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